94 GT Front Clip Swap

**6GenFan** · 08-04-2006, 11:08 AM

Hi, Need some help with a 94 GT hatchback that needs a new front clip (son had an unfortunate encounter, please don't ask). What I need to know is: from the front wheel arches forward are there any differences at all between the ST and GT and automatic vs manual transmision models (I know the ST and GT engines are different, but does this matter as far as all the sheetmetal, electrical, etc) ? I'm looking for a donor car to swap front ends, but want to make the swap as simple (and economical) as possible. Since ST models cost less than GT, it should make for a cheaper swap if exactly the same. Similarly, there seem to be many more 5 speeds than AT Celicas available, is this an issue when swapping front ends (I'm leaving the current AT drivetrain 2.2L engine intact). Thanks for any help you can provide. If this post would be more appropriate in the 6Gen forum, let me know and I'll copy it there. Thanks!

**Arabian_Knight** · 08-04-2006, 11:29 AM

I dont think the ST and GT have the same architechture inside the bay. Ims rue someone else will answer this aswell

**wil_wil2** · 08-04-2006, 02:03 PM

To my knowledge the ST and GT are very structually similar, they do have slight variations with in the engine bay, but the front end body lines should match up. They are based off of the same platform. In my eyes I don't think there would be much of a problem, except the electrical aspect of it since they do use quite different engines.

**CiRiS91GT** · 08-04-2006, 02:43 PM

electrical nightmare from what i understand

**Locker** · 08-04-2006, 02:52 PM

it should work but I honestly do not know for sure. I do know that the main crossmember is different between ST and GT though

**Lil_lissa** · 08-04-2006, 04:13 PM

i don't know either.. if no one on here knows for sure.. try www.6gc.net i guarentee you someone there will know

**3sgte@daspeedof** · 08-04-2006, 06:19 PM

Not only are the engine mounts different, but the wiring will be different too. But other wise the frontend or metal in the engine bay will be the same.

**6GenFan** · 08-04-2006, 08:25 PM

Thanks for the advice. I'm really not doing a complete front clip which usually involves the entire front end drivetrain and wiring from the firewall forward. What I need is to replace the structure from the center of the wheel wells forward, while leaving the engine/transaxle as is. If engine mounts and electrical layout are different between the ST and GT, I'll look for a GT donor car to keep things simple.

08-04-2006, 11:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
6GenFan Location: VA Posts: 2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Last On: 08-11-2006 07:54 AM	94 GT Front Clip Swap Hi, Need some help with a 94 GT hatchback that needs a new front clip (son had an unfortunate encounter, please don't ask). What I need to know is: from the front wheel arches forward are there any differences at all between the ST and GT and automatic vs manual transmision models (I know the ST and GT engines are different, but does this matter as far as all the sheetmetal, electrical, etc) ? I'm looking for a donor car to swap front ends, but want to make the swap as simple (and economical) as possible. Since ST models cost less than GT, it should make for a cheaper swap if exactly the same. Similarly, there seem to be many more 5 speeds than AT Celicas available, is this an issue when swapping front ends (I'm leaving the current AT drivetrain 2.2L engine intact). Thanks for any help you can provide. If this post would be more appropriate in the 6Gen forum, let me know and I'll copy it there. Thanks!

08-04-2006, 11:29 AM	#2 (permalink)
Arabian_Knight AK47 Location: Richmond Hill Posts: 3,800 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 02-09-2008 02:14 AM Vehicle: G35 Coupe 6MT 2nd Vehicle: Swapped 5th gen	I dont think the ST and GT have the same architechture inside the bay. Ims rue someone else will answer this aswell __________________

08-04-2006, 02:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
CiRiS91GT Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 1,758 Join Date: Jul 2005 Last On: 11-24-2008 06:45 PM Vehicle: '91 AllTrac 2nd Vehicle: '91 Celica GT	electrical nightmare from what i understand __________________ -- 91 Celica GT 89 Suzuki GSX 750

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Lil_lissa biker bitch Location: Cambridge Posts: 4,488 Join Date: Dec 2003 Last On: 11-28-2008 12:49 PM Vehicle: 04 Suzuki GS500 2nd Vehicle: 95 Intrepid	i don't know either.. if no one on here knows for sure.. try www.6gc.net i guarentee you someone there will know __________________ lissa \| 1997 Ford F150 Lariat 4x4

08-04-2006, 06:19 PM	#7 (permalink)
3sgte@daspeedof Hi-Tech Location: Mississauga Posts: 3,715 Join Date: May 2004 Last On: 10-30-2008 02:52 PM Vehicle: 3sgte-5th gen 2nd Vehicle: 92 5th gen celi	Not only are the engine mounts different, but the wiring will be different too. But other wise the frontend or metal in the engine bay will be the same. __________________ Boost is a necessity just like air, once you take your first breath you can't live with out it! Salon Spa Software for all your management software needs. http://salonspaware.com - spa salon software

08-04-2006, 02:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
wil_wil2 Location: Borden, Saskatchewan Posts: 764 Join Date: Feb 2006 Last On: 01-27-2007 04:16 PM Vehicle: 1968 C10 2nd Vehicle: 1989 Accord	To my knowledge the ST and GT are very structually similar, they do have slight variations with in the engine bay, but the front end body lines should match up. They are based off of the same platform. In my eyes I don't think there would be much of a problem, except the electrical aspect of it since they do use quite different engines.

08-04-2006, 08:25 PM	#8 (permalink)
6GenFan Location: VA Posts: 2 Join Date: Aug 2006 Last On: 08-11-2006 07:54 AM	Thanks Thanks for the advice. I'm really not doing a complete front clip which usually involves the entire front end drivetrain and wiring from the firewall forward. What I need is to replace the structure from the center of the wheel wells forward, while leaving the engine/transaxle as is. If engine mounts and electrical layout are different between the ST and GT, I'll look for a GT donor car to keep things simple.

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