Newbie - shall help daughter with -89 Celica

**Borjan** · 11-04-2005, 02:34 PM

Hi there.
My daughter got a -89 Celica with 3S-GE engine.
It needs to gain some preformance, be tuned correctly.
I have Chiltons Celica 86-93 Service Manual.

Problem 1.
At acceleration the car hesitates at abt. 3800 rpm, it feels like misfire.
When she pass 5000 rpm its getting better but not good in my opinion.
The acceleration up to 3800 rpm is smooth as long as I keep the "economy lamp" green, when it switch to yellow it feels like some kind of misfire.
In a tread I read about MAF sensor and felt - there´s the problem, just some cleaning and the problem is solved.
I din´t finda any MAF and acc. to Chilton there is none
.
Long Life Spark plugs PK20R8
New distributor rotor and cap.
Sparkplug cables resistance between 10,55 kohm (cyl1) to 5,36 kohm cyl4).

Have any of You a good advice to me ?

Problem 2
Passenger side "frog-eye" starts open-close sometime during driving.
If I pull over and stop with the engine runnig it stays open.
If I press on the lid it stays open, it´s locked in open position.
When I start driving again it can start open-close again.
I looks like it should be related to the voltage.
Engine running at idle - less voltage.
Engine running at 3-4000 rpm - more voltage and open-close cycle.

Have any of You a good advice to me about this one also ?

Borjan

**TRDcelicaGT-FOUR** · 11-04-2005, 03:30 PM

Problem 1, try doing a tune up, new air filter, plugs wires. Clean the throttle body out well, and check your sensors, make sure its all connected well.

Second problem. Couse be bad wiring, or the motor is seized, and stuggling to open. You may need to replace the light with one from the junk yard.

I used to have an 88 GT-S, and that sucker moved. Handling was awesome. Really fun cars, as long as the rust doesnt start attacking.

**Borjan** · 11-15-2005, 04:02 AM

This engine is not covered by Chiltons manual !
None of the sketches, pics in the manual shows this engine and acc. to tables i Chilton manual the last 3S-GE engines are from 1989.
http://tcs.teamymse.net/bildgalleri/...0/P7040017.jpg

Anyway I jumped E1-TE1 in checkconnector, connected strob to cyl 1 and
checked timing, not 10 deg TDC, it was more like 5 deg after TDC ??
How is that possible, the car has been running OK until lately ?

Checked the fail codes and got 2 - 1 (O2-sensor).
Cleared the failure code by unplug EFI-fuse (15A) a couple of minutes.
The code did not come back after driving 15-20 minutes.
Will that mean that the sensor is OK ??

Further investigations to be done.
Bye for now/borjan

**Borjan** · 11-15-2005, 11:51 AM

http://www.celispeed.com/gallery/alb...3S-GE_1990.JPG

**sittinonvolks** · 11-19-2005, 06:14 PM

I don't know much about your year but I can say Welcome!!

11-04-2005, 02:34 PM	#1 (permalink)
Borjan Location: Finland Posts: 3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Last On: 11-20-2005 01:31 PM	Newbie - shall help daughter with -89 Celica Hi there. My daughter got a -89 Celica with 3S-GE engine. It needs to gain some preformance, be tuned correctly. I have Chiltons Celica 86-93 Service Manual. Problem 1. At acceleration the car hesitates at abt. 3800 rpm, it feels like misfire. When she pass 5000 rpm its getting better but not good in my opinion. The acceleration up to 3800 rpm is smooth as long as I keep the "economy lamp" green, when it switch to yellow it feels like some kind of misfire. In a tread I read about MAF sensor and felt - there´s the problem, just some cleaning and the problem is solved. I din´t finda any MAF and acc. to Chilton there is none . Long Life Spark plugs PK20R8 New distributor rotor and cap. Sparkplug cables resistance between 10,55 kohm (cyl1) to 5,36 kohm cyl4). Have any of You a good advice to me ? Problem 2 Passenger side "frog-eye" starts open-close sometime during driving. If I pull over and stop with the engine runnig it stays open. If I press on the lid it stays open, it´s locked in open position. When I start driving again it can start open-close again. I looks like it should be related to the voltage. Engine running at idle - less voltage. Engine running at 3-4000 rpm - more voltage and open-close cycle. Have any of You a good advice to me about this one also ? Borjan __________________ Celica-90 3S-GE Buick LeSabre STW -89 w. 6.5l GM-diesel+THM700r

11-04-2005, 03:30 PM	#2 (permalink)
TRDcelicaGT-FOUR Lost in a world of Chaos Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,585 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 02-16-2007 12:53 AM Vehicle: BMW 325i 2nd Vehicle: MB 300D	Problem 1, try doing a tune up, new air filter, plugs wires. Clean the throttle body out well, and check your sensors, make sure its all connected well. Second problem. Couse be bad wiring, or the motor is seized, and stuggling to open. You may need to replace the light with one from the junk yard. I used to have an 88 GT-S, and that sucker moved. Handling was awesome. Really fun cars, as long as the rust doesnt start attacking. __________________ When a boy reaches puberty, he says goodbye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery.

11-15-2005, 04:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
Borjan Location: Finland Posts: 3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Last On: 11-20-2005 01:31 PM	This engine is not covered by Chiltons manual ! None of the sketches, pics in the manual shows this engine and acc. to tables i Chilton manual the last 3S-GE engines are from 1989. http://tcs.teamymse.net/bildgalleri/...0/P7040017.jpg Anyway I jumped E1-TE1 in checkconnector, connected strob to cyl 1 and checked timing, not 10 deg TDC, it was more like 5 deg after TDC ?? How is that possible, the car has been running OK until lately ? Checked the fail codes and got 2 - 1 (O2-sensor). Cleared the failure code by unplug EFI-fuse (15A) a couple of minutes. The code did not come back after driving 15-20 minutes. Will that mean that the sensor is OK ?? Further investigations to be done. Bye for now/borjan __________________ Celica-90 3S-GE Buick LeSabre STW -89 w. 6.5l GM-diesel+THM700r

11-15-2005, 11:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
Borjan Location: Finland Posts: 3 Join Date: Nov 2005 Last On: 11-20-2005 01:31 PM	3S-GE 1990 pic. http://www.celispeed.com/gallery/alb...3S-GE_1990.JPG __________________ Celica-90 3S-GE Buick LeSabre STW -89 w. 6.5l GM-diesel+THM700r

11-19-2005, 06:14 PM	#5 (permalink)
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