so im getting a 3sgte

**MartinGouda** · 05-03-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Arabian_Knight

yeah grant i guess its the way you phrase things that might portray a bad image to me. But I understand your opinions but there are running example daily drivers of 5sfte at low boost (7psi). If all is well...its 200 bucks for pretty much all the turbo parts (except cooler and map sensor). I need to run some oil lines, cooolant lines and change the fuel filter before i do anything anyway.

i have my doubts about the lower bearings by this point

**Arabian_Knight** · 05-03-2006, 03:03 PM

is that 5sfe in general? piney knows someone who has never had an issue doing the same swap...i might be different but i c people on TN and friends of friends running it so i think its doable. and im not gonna be running over 150 hp all the time...i meen with the turbo as 7 psi i amexpecting 45% increase in power. So 120 at the wheel (maybe 110) stock so tops ill be at 170-180 at the wheel max which wont happen often. And im thinking that bearings are available if needed and wont put me out for more than a day or two. If i have anymore issues, I will take the turbo off and go back to stock...is the headgasket still cardboard on this martin?

**Ratko** · 05-03-2006, 03:07 PM

from my observations, forced induction and the 5SFE do not mix well.

my suggestion would be to either go full 3SGTE swap, or else keep the 5SFE natural.

**Pineapple** · 05-03-2006, 03:08 PM

With 5S ECU, you don't even need another MAP sensor. Check sticky in TN and see which 5S block you can use to do 5S-GTE. I believe its the 90-91 Celica block, Mike may still have one.

**Arabian_Knight** · 05-03-2006, 03:16 PM

^
mike? or is that the one u sold to the pei guy?

**MartinGouda** · 05-03-2006, 03:17 PM

you show me a guy with a5sfte that has 20,000kms on it and i'll find you the easter bunny...

i was going to do it cause i was going to blow it and i didn't care... you talk alot about having a students budget...i wouldn't fuck around

**MartinGouda** · 05-03-2006, 03:19 PM

ahmed... don't take this the wrong way but you are in WAY over your head when you start talking about the 5SGTE there are soooo many issues that only money can solve and none of our wallets are that thick man.

if anything take the motor for the price and send it to a builder.. then save for the rest of the parts while you drive the 5s till you have everything you need... then once oyu have your collection together expect a 2 month swap.

**Locker** · 05-03-2006, 03:23 PM

I still have a 90 motor and a 92.

no matter what way you go your going run into issues. its all going to cost money.

**MartinGouda** · 05-03-2006, 03:24 PM

we tried to tell ya man... front clip or bust

**Arabian_Knight** · 05-03-2006, 03:30 PM

i am not swapping lol...i was just thinking of a light turbo at low boost or pineys suggestion of a 5sgte. I have no experience turboing it so I was asking people before i grab 200 dollar engine and spend 200 on turbo parts...but hey, maybe ill just build something on the side like the 5sgte and drop it in with no rewiring as piney said...ill decide later..important thing is for 200 im gonna grab it.

**MartinGouda** · 05-03-2006, 03:35 PM

flip it

**Arabian_Knight** · 05-03-2006, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinGouda

flip it

?

**Locker** · 05-03-2006, 03:42 PM

here is what you really need to do. spend 200 and buy my extra 92 motor or $100 on the 90. have it in reserve.. boost the hell out of the 5s and see how long it lasts... what do you have to loose? $500 bucks

**MartinGouda** · 05-03-2006, 03:44 PM

what you really need to do is spend 3000 and buy a clip and not pussy foot around if you have any intentions of having a fast fwd celica...

**Arabian_Knight** · 05-03-2006, 03:44 PM

i am considering buying the 92 engine with 135 on it anyway cuz mine is older. But I think my space is limited to one fu;; engine at a time in my garage and even that is REALLY hard to fit.

05-03-2006, 03:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
Arabian_Knight AK47 Location: Richmond Hill Posts: 3,800 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 02-09-2008 02:14 AM Vehicle: G35 Coupe 6MT 2nd Vehicle: Swapped 5th gen	is that 5sfe in general? piney knows someone who has never had an issue doing the same swap...i might be different but i c people on TN and friends of friends running it so i think its doable. and im not gonna be running over 150 hp all the time...i meen with the turbo as 7 psi i amexpecting 45% increase in power. So 120 at the wheel (maybe 110) stock so tops ill be at 170-180 at the wheel max which wont happen often. And im thinking that bearings are available if needed and wont put me out for more than a day or two. If i have anymore issues, I will take the turbo off and go back to stock...is the headgasket still cardboard on this martin? __________________

05-03-2006, 03:08 PM	#24 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,296 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 06:47 PM	With 5S ECU, you don't even need another MAP sensor. Check sticky in TN and see which 5S block you can use to do 5S-GTE. I believe its the 90-91 Celica block, Mike may still have one. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

05-03-2006, 03:16 PM	#25 (permalink)
Arabian_Knight AK47 Location: Richmond Hill Posts: 3,800 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 02-09-2008 02:14 AM Vehicle: G35 Coupe 6MT 2nd Vehicle: Swapped 5th gen	^ mike? or is that the one u sold to the pei guy? __________________

05-03-2006, 03:17 PM	#26 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 02:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	you show me a guy with a5sfte that has 20,000kms on it and i'll find you the easter bunny... i was going to do it cause i was going to blow it and i didn't care... you talk alot about having a students budget...i wouldn't fuck around __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

05-03-2006, 03:19 PM	#27 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 02:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	ahmed... don't take this the wrong way but you are in WAY over your head when you start talking about the 5SGTE there are soooo many issues that only money can solve and none of our wallets are that thick man. if anything take the motor for the price and send it to a builder.. then save for the rest of the parts while you drive the 5s till you have everything you need... then once oyu have your collection together expect a 2 month swap. __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

05-03-2006, 03:07 PM	#23 (permalink)
Ratko it was all a dream Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 9,863,211 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 11-15-2008 01:57 PM Vehicle: 91 MR2 Turbo 2nd Vehicle: 96 Civic Hatch	from my observations, forced induction and the 5SFE do not mix well. my suggestion would be to either go full 3SGTE swap, or else keep the 5SFE natural.

05-03-2006, 03:24 PM	#29 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 02:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	we tried to tell ya man... front clip or bust __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

05-03-2006, 03:30 PM	#30 (permalink)
Arabian_Knight AK47 Location: Richmond Hill Posts: 3,800 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 02-09-2008 02:14 AM Vehicle: G35 Coupe 6MT 2nd Vehicle: Swapped 5th gen	i am not swapping lol...i was just thinking of a light turbo at low boost or pineys suggestion of a 5sgte. I have no experience turboing it so I was asking people before i grab 200 dollar engine and spend 200 on turbo parts...but hey, maybe ill just build something on the side like the 5sgte and drop it in with no rewiring as piney said...ill decide later..important thing is for 200 im gonna grab it. __________________

05-03-2006, 03:35 PM	#31 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 02:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	flip it __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

05-03-2006, 03:44 PM	#34 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 02:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	what you really need to do is spend 3000 and buy a clip and not pussy foot around if you have any intentions of having a fast fwd celica... __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

05-03-2006, 03:44 PM	#35 (permalink)
Arabian_Knight AK47 Location: Richmond Hill Posts: 3,800 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 02-09-2008 02:14 AM Vehicle: G35 Coupe 6MT 2nd Vehicle: Swapped 5th gen	i am considering buying the 92 engine with 135 on it anyway cuz mine is older. But I think my space is limited to one fu;; engine at a time in my garage and even that is REALLY hard to fit. __________________

05-03-2006, 02:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
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