4 point harnesses

**Valo666** · 05-23-2005, 09:17 PM

I know there is a brand of harnesses that are street legal in ontario, but i dont know what the name is. Im hoping some one can help me, im plannin on gettin some new seats (sparco or momo) and im wanting to put 4 points in my 6th gen, but i wanna know where 2 get these street legal belts. I dont think the sparco sliders will accomidate the factory retainer. So if any one knows about these belts/knows where 2 get em, that would help alot. thanks

Valo

**MAT 90GT S** · 05-25-2005, 08:39 PM

you could try MTO see what IS legal
I would think a speed shop/manufacturer would know
let us know
MA

**RN2NVS** · 05-25-2005, 09:06 PM

im not sure which ones are legal
i know of people running

sparco and takatas tho

**Lfsabch** · 05-26-2005, 12:13 AM

ya if anyone figures which ones are plzzzz let me know

**celicastyle** · 06-21-2005, 04:35 PM

Damn Canadians. If its gonna hold you in the seat it should be legal. You are better off in a 4-5 poit than in a factory belt.

**MartinGouda** · 06-21-2005, 07:05 PM

takatas and sparcos and shit are all legal to have installed but it's against the law to remove the old belt from what i understand

**Lfsabch** · 06-21-2005, 11:24 PM

makes sense

**TRDcelicaGT-FOUR** · 06-22-2005, 03:15 PM

^no it doesn't why would having two restraining devices make sense. Unless theres a new law that states that 4/5 point harnesses are street legal, then its false.

http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/safety/seatbelt.htm

"A typical seat belt assembly consists of a lap and shoulder belt. The shoulder belt should be worn as tightly as possible over the shoulder and across the chest. The lap belt should be firm against the body and low across the hips."

Racing Harnesses, do not support the hips, and are recommended for off road, and closed course use. I had a friend who got a ticket(don't know the specifics) for a harness. If the cop wants to be a dick, he can charge you with no seatbelt, since your not weraing the proper one, and its 2 demerit points and up to $500 in fines.

Racing harnesses are useless if your not racing. Plus not really practical for everyday use. Just keep your seatbelts the way they are, and use the money on some rims.

**Lfsabch** · 06-22-2005, 06:38 PM

i meant that by taking the stock belt out your car is now illegal and will be taken off the road, but if you had the 4 point and left the stock one in then the car is still legal.

**TRDcelicaGT-FOUR** · 06-23-2005, 09:28 AM

If you are not WEARING the correct seatbelt, it is a traffic violation and you will be awarded with a ticket consisting of 2 demerit points and a fine. The same as if you have the seatbelt in the car, but don't wear it.

I hope that clears things up for you

05-23-2005, 09:17 PM	#1 (permalink)
Valo666 Posts: 62 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 03-31-2008 11:52 AM	4 point harnesses I know there is a brand of harnesses that are street legal in ontario, but i dont know what the name is. Im hoping some one can help me, im plannin on gettin some new seats (sparco or momo) and im wanting to put 4 points in my 6th gen, but i wanna know where 2 get these street legal belts. I dont think the sparco sliders will accomidate the factory retainer. So if any one knows about these belts/knows where 2 get em, that would help alot. thanks Valo

05-25-2005, 08:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
MAT 90GT S Location: RiCHMOND HILL/GTA Ontario,Canada Posts: 408 Join Date: Apr 2005 Last On: 11-02-2006 10:48 PM	you could try MTO see what IS legal I would think a speed shop/manufacturer would know let us know MA __________________ 90 GTS sonn2b SHWAPPED, hmmm hope before tarmac gets cold! FLAT BLACK(with white/red freckles) JDM HooD SCRATCHEDDDD Have nice high en HP LJ 4600d color printers 8.5x11.5 only

05-25-2005, 09:06 PM	#3 (permalink)
RN2NVS Moderator Location: Toronto Posts: 10,244 Join Date: Aug 2003 Last On: 06-30-2008 09:41 PM	im not sure which ones are legal i know of people running sparco and takatas tho __________________

05-26-2005, 12:13 AM	#4 (permalink)
Lfsabch Location: whitby, Ontario Posts: 2,009 Join Date: Apr 2005 Last On: 10-30-2007 07:28 PM Vehicle: red 01celica gt 2nd Vehicle: '99 yamaha R6	ya if anyone figures which ones are plzzzz let me know __________________ FOR SALE : APR red tower strut bar $100 hotchkis front strut bar w/ camber adj. $150 fibreglass trunk Sub Enclosure- $150 FULL!!New- Zex Wet Nitrous kit w/ Extras- $900

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MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 02:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	takatas and sparcos and shit are all legal to have installed but it's against the law to remove the old belt from what i understand __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

06-21-2005, 04:35 PM	#5 (permalink)
celicastyle Posts: 29 Join Date: Jun 2005 Last On: 07-15-2005 10:51 AM	Damn Canadians. If its gonna hold you in the seat it should be legal. You are better off in a 4-5 poit than in a factory belt.

06-21-2005, 11:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Lfsabch Location: whitby, Ontario Posts: 2,009 Join Date: Apr 2005 Last On: 10-30-2007 07:28 PM Vehicle: red 01celica gt 2nd Vehicle: '99 yamaha R6	makes sense __________________ FOR SALE : APR red tower strut bar $100 hotchkis front strut bar w/ camber adj. $150 fibreglass trunk Sub Enclosure- $150 FULL!!New- Zex Wet Nitrous kit w/ Extras- $900

06-22-2005, 03:15 PM	#8 (permalink)
TRDcelicaGT-FOUR Lost in a world of Chaos Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,585 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 02-16-2007 12:53 AM Vehicle: BMW 325i 2nd Vehicle: MB 300D	^no it doesn't why would having two restraining devices make sense. Unless theres a new law that states that 4/5 point harnesses are street legal, then its false. http://www.mto.gov.on.ca/english/safety/seatbelt.htm "A typical seat belt assembly consists of a lap and shoulder belt. The shoulder belt should be worn as tightly as possible over the shoulder and across the chest. The lap belt should be firm against the body and low across the hips." Racing Harnesses, do not support the hips, and are recommended for off road, and closed course use. I had a friend who got a ticket(don't know the specifics) for a harness. If the cop wants to be a dick, he can charge you with no seatbelt, since your not weraing the proper one, and its 2 demerit points and up to $500 in fines. Racing harnesses are useless if your not racing. Plus not really practical for everyday use. Just keep your seatbelts the way they are, and use the money on some rims. __________________ When a boy reaches puberty, he says goodbye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery.

06-22-2005, 06:38 PM	#9 (permalink)
Lfsabch Location: whitby, Ontario Posts: 2,009 Join Date: Apr 2005 Last On: 10-30-2007 07:28 PM Vehicle: red 01celica gt 2nd Vehicle: '99 yamaha R6	i meant that by taking the stock belt out your car is now illegal and will be taken off the road, but if you had the 4 point and left the stock one in then the car is still legal. __________________ FOR SALE : APR red tower strut bar $100 hotchkis front strut bar w/ camber adj. $150 fibreglass trunk Sub Enclosure- $150 FULL!!New- Zex Wet Nitrous kit w/ Extras- $900

06-23-2005, 09:28 AM	#10 (permalink)
TRDcelicaGT-FOUR Lost in a world of Chaos Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,585 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 02-16-2007 12:53 AM Vehicle: BMW 325i 2nd Vehicle: MB 300D	If you are not WEARING the correct seatbelt, it is a traffic violation and you will be awarded with a ticket consisting of 2 demerit points and a fine. The same as if you have the seatbelt in the car, but don't wear it. I hope that clears things up for you __________________ When a boy reaches puberty, he says goodbye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery.

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