what color breaks will be best on my del...

[DarkSideCelica]

uhh.. i didn't say wilwood calipers are rice... i just said red is a color most ricers would pick if they wanted to paint their calipers... y be in the same group as them?

[DarkSideCelica]

also, y paint them and not powdercoat? those r nice calipers, and i'd think u should go the extra step

[Locker]

I'd go with silver rotors and black calipers

[MartinGouda]

Originally Posted by DarkSideCelica

uhh.. i didn't say wilwood calipers are rice... i just said red is a color most ricers would pick if they wanted to paint their calipers... y be in the same group as them?

i wouldn't be in the same group as them, i would be in the group that they are pretending to be in.

you seem to think they paint them to have more red on their cars, i think they paint them so they look like wilwood's, baer's and brembos...by being in the group of people that actually spend the time and money to install 4 pot calipers i think i make a clear point of not being a part of "that group" that paints thier calipers to be poserurs or to be "fakin jacks" as some might say..
if someone isn't smart enough to see the difference between red honda civic calipers and red wilwoods i don't care what they think, they are uneducated in the ways of the force. and speaking of the way of the force. powder coating a break caliper contains heat. using high temp paint allows temperatures to escape through the coating. breaks slow cars by converting kinetic energy into heat energy and then lose that energy through heat condition to the atmosphere. this can be done best with heat conductive materials. powder coat isn't heat transfer friendly...frankly i wouldn't even be painting them if they were silver, black or red and i thought about shaving the color off but they are andonized light purple and i'm not really down with that color on a red car.



anyways, your imput on this matter is kinda useless after the ricer comments. you are clearly afraid to be awesome if it makes you worry about looking like people that are just trying to look awesome.

[Pineapple]

If they're aluminum, anodized them red.

[FlyCanadianGuy]

Black rotor, gold caliper. Eventually black rims.

[DarkSideCelica]

haha.. u wanted an opinion, i gave them to u... u have a nice setup, it's ur stuff, so do what u want

[FlyCanadianGuy]

Originally Posted by MartinGouda

powder coating a break caliper contains heat.

breaks slow cars by converting kinetic energy into heat energy and then lose that energy through heat condition to the atmosphere. this can be done best with heat conductive materials.

Uhh, first off their BRAKES. And heat does not stop your vehicle. The coefficient of friction of both your disc to pad, and tire to ground surface depend on how fast you stop. The by-product of this friction is heat unfortunately, which can warp rotors or wear pads prematurely. The only reason racing teams use super high conductive materials (carbon Ceramic) is so that brake applications can be applied for a longer duration without heating the pads/rotors to failure.

[MartinGouda]

Originally Posted by Pineapple

If they're aluminum, anodized them red.

where can i have them done?

[MartinGouda]

Originally Posted by FlyCanadianGuy

Uhh, first off their BRAKES. And heat does not stop your vehicle. The coefficient of friction of both your disc to pad, and tire to ground surface depend on how fast you stop. The by-product of this friction is heat unfortunately, which can warp rotors or wear pads prematurely. The only reason racing teams use super high conductive materials (carbon Ceramic) is so that brake applications can be applied for a longer duration without heating the pads/rotors to failure.

you are absoloutly wrong, it's kinetic energy being converted into heat, hence the point of larger rotor being able to disperse more of that converted energy away from the car. see most amature mechanics and hobby car guys like your self think that increasing friction will increase the ability to stop but this isn't true. we could achive more friction by using sandpaper or gummy substances that would grab harder than the products that we do now but the goal here isn't friction it's the conversion.

see this is why ceramic pads are so useful and why people worry about heat and how breaks will act when already "full" of heat. cermaics have crazy heat characteristics and compared to most metals can release the heat much faster just by being fed air to release it to. See where you see a pad and you see friction, I see a heat container and a energy converter. when your rotor touches your pad it makes the kinetic energy that is created by inertia and translates it into heat which is stored in the pads and rotors then as they cool the car looses that energy completely, but when they are heated to the point where they can't take anymore heat they start to transfer that heat energy to the pistons of the calipers, which then goes into the caliper housings (ever wonder why most domestic breaks have fins on em?)


here is a C5 vette caliper in case you don't know what i mean...

now if you start to think like a scientist or an F1 level mechanic you'll see all of your break components like containers and when one fills with heat it will spill over into the next. the larger the component the larger the container and the less chance there is that your spill over will translate into your break fluid, rims, tires, wheel bearings and hubs...

the reason they use these high materials is because they can lose more heat than other materials at a higher rate. this is called loss of heat energy.

i know what you are thinking and i know you think that friction makes sense but friction is only the way that we convert one energy to another, the true show of pimping when it comes to stoppers isn't how well you can produce friction it's how well you can convert energy into something that you can dispose of. this is specifically why we've as a society developed things like cross drilled rotors and vented directional veins on our rotors and air ducting being fed to the brakes.

i know you only see one side of things but really before you argue think why friction? and where does the kinetic energy of the car go if we know that energy is neither created nor destroyed? based on your theroy of stoppers you arn't considering what to do with the by product of the stopping force being generated...

anyways...trust me, i am not looking for more friction or grabbing the main reason for me going to these breaks is simply that they are a bigger container



from wilwood's site

Wilwood Engineering produces over 120 different types of high performance rotors designed specifically for racing applications. Although a rotor's basic function is to disperse energy (in the form of heat) created by the brake pads clamping onto the rapidly rotating rotor, how well a rotor performs this job under the extremes of racing is why Wilwood rotors are considered the best in the industry.

oh and the tire to ground thing, that's traction not friction unless you lock up your breaks then it's friction, but that traction is actually your counter force when it comes to generating the conversion of heat at the calipers. As soon as you take the enertia of the car and go from having your wheels act like a anti generator through use of the gravity on the wheels to them being halted by breaks then your pads rotors and calipers mean nothing and then you are strictly dealing with the rubber to ground surface friction... nothing more.

trust me i'm a nerd

[RN2NVS]

Black with the caliper black.

[MartinGouda]

ok i am down to



and

[hl2k3]

ricer red on black

(I'm poking fun at the ricer thing)

However I can see some 16yr old ricer roll up to Martin and Martin saying something sarcastic like "yo lets fast and furious this, I got all the rice I need you little bitch"

poor kid wouldn't know what hit him

[Dileca]

Black with red, very nice:)

[Locker]

black on black.... you have a painted intercooler for a reason right??? paint the calipers black and let those that notice them enjoy it just like the IC