Celica Quesadillas

**pinggolf78** · 09-12-2004, 04:12 PM

Hey all. I know absoutly nothing about Celicas and was wondering if you all could help make my decision to buy one as a project car a little easier. It looks like Ill get something in the 95-97 range. So far I have seen three models. The ST, GT, and GT-4. Could someone please explain the differences of these models? All I am interested in is the motor specs and what kind of platform I would be starting with. Just a brief synopsis as well as what you would reccomend would be great. Thanks a bunch.

**MartinGouda** · 09-12-2004, 05:55 PM

GT-4>*

i will expand this statment later when i have more time... all i can say for now is everything else is for fools that are drawn in by look and forget about substance

**Fullcontact** · 09-12-2004, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MartinGouda

GT-4>*

i will expand this statment later when i have more time... all i can say for now is everything else is for fools that are drawn in by look and forget about substance

I'll second that......You'll spend lots of money trying to get the others close to the performance of a stock GT-4/ALL-TRAC

**Pineapple** · 09-13-2004, 09:37 AM

ST -> 1.8L 7A-FE engine 120HP, 120lb-ft?
GT -> 2.2L 5S-FE 135HP, 140lb-ft
GTS -> Same as GT plus rear disc brake
GT4, AllTrac -> 2.0L 3S-GTE 200+HP, with AWD
Any convertion to AllTrac will be costly due to cuttting and welding to fit the drive train and stiffen up to body. You can swap the 3S-GTE in any body with minor work.

**pinggolf78** · 09-14-2004, 04:51 PM

Thanks for answering my question Pineapple.

Its nice to see that not all the members here have to patronize those who dont know their Celica info.

It seems like the 3S-GTE motor swap is the thing to do. If anyone has any other ideas, id be interested in hearing them. Thanks for the info.

**MartinGouda** · 09-14-2004, 04:55 PM

NO WAY MAN...the swap is garbage in a 2wd setup...you will have 0 traction..

ALTRAC!!

**Ratko** · 09-14-2004, 05:24 PM

doesn't andrew (boosted GT) have the swap in a 2WD setup and he ran 13's ??

CONTROL ONE · 09-14-2004, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Ratko

doesn't andrew (boosted GT) have the swap in a 2WD setup and he ran 13's ??

that's the french in martin coming out

**Ratko** · 09-14-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CONTROL ONE

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratko

doesn't andrew (boosted GT) have the swap in a 2WD setup and he ran 13's ??

that's the french in martin coming out

imagine you married a 5, when you could have married an 8, if you just waited a bit longer... :D

i think thats how martin feels about the all-trac

**MartinGouda** · 09-14-2004, 07:11 PM

^
you compleate me

**DaksGT** · 09-14-2004, 07:24 PM

And he still can't spell.

**Ratko** · 09-14-2004, 11:27 PM

hate hate hate hate

**pinggolf78** · 09-16-2004, 05:57 PM

What kind of gains can I expect going with AWD with that engine vs. 2WD? If its worth it to go AWD, then can you please tell me what is required in that swap and what kind of $ Im looking at spending? Thanks.

**VM5thgen** · 09-23-2004, 12:07 AM

if you want AWD, just buy the alltrac

if you want a GT(-S) and a swap, you're looking at about the same price as just buying the alltrac, and then problems that come along with doing a swap

09-12-2004, 04:12 PM	#1 (permalink)
pinggolf78 Posts: 4 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-21-2004 09:17 PM	Celica Quesadillas Hey all. I know absoutly nothing about Celicas and was wondering if you all could help make my decision to buy one as a project car a little easier. It looks like Ill get something in the 95-97 range. So far I have seen three models. The ST, GT, and GT-4. Could someone please explain the differences of these models? All I am interested in is the motor specs and what kind of platform I would be starting with. Just a brief synopsis as well as what you would reccomend would be great. Thanks a bunch.

09-12-2004, 05:55 PM	#2 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 01:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	GT-4>* i will expand this statment later when i have more time... all i can say for now is everything else is for fools that are drawn in by look and forget about substance __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

09-13-2004, 09:37 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,250 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 05:16 PM	ST -> 1.8L 7A-FE engine 120HP, 120lb-ft? GT -> 2.2L 5S-FE 135HP, 140lb-ft GTS -> Same as GT plus rear disc brake GT4, AllTrac -> 2.0L 3S-GTE 200+HP, with AWD Any convertion to AllTrac will be costly due to cuttting and welding to fit the drive train and stiffen up to body. You can swap the 3S-GTE in any body with minor work. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

09-14-2004, 04:55 PM	#6 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 01:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	NO WAY MAN...the swap is garbage in a 2wd setup...you will have 0 traction.. ALTRAC!! __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

09-14-2004, 07:11 PM	#10 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 01:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	^ you compleate me __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

09-14-2004, 04:51 PM	#5 (permalink)
pinggolf78 Posts: 4 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-21-2004 09:17 PM	Thanks for answering my question Pineapple. Its nice to see that not all the members here have to patronize those who dont know their Celica info. It seems like the 3S-GTE motor swap is the thing to do. If anyone has any other ideas, id be interested in hearing them. Thanks for the info.

09-14-2004, 05:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Ratko it was all a dream Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 9,863,211 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 09-25-2008 11:05 PM Vehicle: 91 MR2 Turbo 2nd Vehicle: 96 Civic Hatch	doesn't andrew (boosted GT) have the swap in a 2WD setup and he ran 13's ??

09-14-2004, 07:24 PM	#11 (permalink)
DaksGT Location: Monaco Posts: 5,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-07-2008 09:26 PM	And he still can't spell. __________________

09-14-2004, 11:27 PM	#12 (permalink)
Ratko it was all a dream Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 9,863,211 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 09-25-2008 11:05 PM Vehicle: 91 MR2 Turbo 2nd Vehicle: 96 Civic Hatch	hate hate hate hate

09-16-2004, 05:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
pinggolf78 Posts: 4 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-21-2004 09:17 PM	What kind of gains can I expect going with AWD with that engine vs. 2WD? If its worth it to go AWD, then can you please tell me what is required in that swap and what kind of $ Im looking at spending? Thanks.

09-23-2004, 12:07 AM	#14 (permalink)
VM5thgen Location: Kitchener ON Posts: 62 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 04-17-2008 10:32 PM	if you want AWD, just buy the alltrac if you want a GT(-S) and a swap, you're looking at about the same price as just buying the alltrac, and then problems that come along with doing a swap __________________ ___ Ryan 1994 Celica GT-S white 1991 Celica GT white -----

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