Aspirated Power for 1ZZ engine

**Dgordon** · 10-11-2005, 07:28 PM

Is there anyone in the GTA that has built up their engine through standard aspirated improvements? I am considering having the head flowed, and blueprinting the engine for a good and balanced output. I have to think that after this work is done, the 1ZZ could easily put out 180, possibly more with intake and exhaust. It would also be a good opportunity to get the internals checked and tested to ensure that not only the HP could be supported, but also further the longevity of the car. Is there anyone out there that has done this, or could recommend a shop to do so? Thanks to all for their time.
(I know that the turbo option is the big one here for a quick HP hit, but most of the kits to me seem unproven. I have a higher mileage GT and would like to get a bit more out of it without sacrificing the Toyota reliability. THANKS to all)

**Burrcold** · 10-11-2005, 08:08 PM

In all honesty the amount of money it would take to build a NA 1ZZ engine to 180 whp would be better spent on a something else. I'm not trying to knock your intentions but many people have tried and failed.

If you are dead set on NA and on a celica, I would say since you already have a high milage engine, to swap it for a low milage 2ZZ and build that NA. It would be money much better spent, that being said, I don't think either option is money well spent. Just my opinion though.

Good luck which ever way you choose.

**Lfsabch** · 10-12-2005, 12:33 AM

ya hes right if you want to go N/A for power id do the 2zz

i read somewhere that a 1zz that was N/A only got around 164 hp

**flylice13** · 10-12-2005, 03:33 AM

what's the max for 2zz engine N/A?

**Lfsabch** · 10-12-2005, 04:40 AM

near 200hp

i havent heard of more then 40-50 hp gain with N/A

**Pineapple** · 10-12-2005, 11:59 AM

P&P will only get you about 20% gain. You'll need a lot more to get 180HP crank. Like higher compression piston and tuned ECU. Intake and exhaust will give you 10% most. Quickest way to get 180HP is nitrous.

**Sal** · 10-12-2005, 01:47 PM

trust me u don't wanna build up a na 2zz engine either

**Lfsabch** · 10-12-2005, 03:23 PM

buy a ferrari

**Dgordon** · 10-12-2005, 06:36 PM

Thanks to all for their comments. It definitely sounds like the cost outweighs the gain. Curious what is it about these motors that so limits their potential. Are these engines already engineered to provide peak power for their design? When I look at other engines, and many I consider with inferior engineering (Ford:-) ) with the same or less displacement have a much higher potential. A case example are the Cosworth kits that are made for the Focus. Anyways, thanks for your time and thoughts!

**MartinGouda** · 10-12-2005, 06:37 PM

mississauga engines will do it.. so will leitner performance.. but there's no point..

35hp and 31% improvment in fuel consumption...
5 minutes to install..
$69.99 ...
http://www.turbonator.com/

**Pineapple** · 10-13-2005, 10:24 AM

1.8L is 1.8L is 1.8L.
In NA it can only breath so much air and can produce so much power.

**fanOFcelicas4lifeFOOL** · 10-13-2005, 10:26 AM

is the turbonator shit for real? Have u bought it?

10-11-2005, 07:28 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dgordon Location: Port Hope Posts: 100 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: Yesterday 09:02 PM Vehicle: 2000 Celica GT	Aspirated Power for 1ZZ engine Is there anyone in the GTA that has built up their engine through standard aspirated improvements? I am considering having the head flowed, and blueprinting the engine for a good and balanced output. I have to think that after this work is done, the 1ZZ could easily put out 180, possibly more with intake and exhaust. It would also be a good opportunity to get the internals checked and tested to ensure that not only the HP could be supported, but also further the longevity of the car. Is there anyone out there that has done this, or could recommend a shop to do so? Thanks to all for their time. (I know that the turbo option is the big one here for a quick HP hit, but most of the kits to me seem unproven. I have a higher mileage GT and would like to get a bit more out of it without sacrificing the Toyota reliability. THANKS to all)

10-11-2005, 08:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Burrcold Location: Toronto Posts: 6,424 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: Yesterday 11:53 PM Vehicle: 08 Lexus IS250 2nd Vehicle: 08 Acura CSX	In all honesty the amount of money it would take to build a NA 1ZZ engine to 180 whp would be better spent on a something else. I'm not trying to knock your intentions but many people have tried and failed. If you are dead set on NA and on a celica, I would say since you already have a high milage engine, to swap it for a low milage 2ZZ and build that NA. It would be money much better spent, that being said, I don't think either option is money well spent. Just my opinion though. Good luck which ever way you choose. __________________ Sold: 2004 Infiniti G35C

10-12-2005, 12:33 AM	#3 (permalink)
Lfsabch Location: whitby, Ontario Posts: 2,009 Join Date: Apr 2005 Last On: 10-30-2007 07:28 PM Vehicle: red 01celica gt 2nd Vehicle: '99 yamaha R6	ya hes right if you want to go N/A for power id do the 2zz i read somewhere that a 1zz that was N/A only got around 164 hp __________________ FOR SALE : APR red tower strut bar $100 hotchkis front strut bar w/ camber adj. $150 fibreglass trunk Sub Enclosure- $150 FULL!!New- Zex Wet Nitrous kit w/ Extras- $900

10-12-2005, 04:40 AM	#5 (permalink)
Lfsabch Location: whitby, Ontario Posts: 2,009 Join Date: Apr 2005 Last On: 10-30-2007 07:28 PM Vehicle: red 01celica gt 2nd Vehicle: '99 yamaha R6	near 200hp i havent heard of more then 40-50 hp gain with N/A __________________ FOR SALE : APR red tower strut bar $100 hotchkis front strut bar w/ camber adj. $150 fibreglass trunk Sub Enclosure- $150 FULL!!New- Zex Wet Nitrous kit w/ Extras- $900

10-12-2005, 11:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,300 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Today 03:43 PM	P&P will only get you about 20% gain. You'll need a lot more to get 180HP crank. Like higher compression piston and tuned ECU. Intake and exhaust will give you 10% most. Quickest way to get 180HP is nitrous. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

10-12-2005, 01:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
Sal Location: Windsor Posts: 2,231 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 11-21-2008 04:46 PM Vehicle: 07 Dakota 2nd Vehicle: 02 Celica GTS	trust me u don't wanna build up a na 2zz engine either __________________ Let it not be said dat I iz a man dat does not care.

10-12-2005, 03:23 PM	#8 (permalink)
Lfsabch Location: whitby, Ontario Posts: 2,009 Join Date: Apr 2005 Last On: 10-30-2007 07:28 PM Vehicle: red 01celica gt 2nd Vehicle: '99 yamaha R6	buy a ferrari __________________ FOR SALE : APR red tower strut bar $100 hotchkis front strut bar w/ camber adj. $150 fibreglass trunk Sub Enclosure- $150 FULL!!New- Zex Wet Nitrous kit w/ Extras- $900

10-12-2005, 06:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
Dgordon Location: Port Hope Posts: 100 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: Yesterday 09:02 PM Vehicle: 2000 Celica GT	Thanks to all for their comments. It definitely sounds like the cost outweighs the gain. Curious what is it about these motors that so limits their potential. Are these engines already engineered to provide peak power for their design? When I look at other engines, and many I consider with inferior engineering (Ford:-) ) with the same or less displacement have a much higher potential. A case example are the Cosworth kits that are made for the Focus. Anyways, thanks for your time and thoughts!

10-12-2005, 06:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,025 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: Today 12:24 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	mississauga engines will do it.. so will leitner performance.. but there's no point.. 35hp and 31% improvment in fuel consumption... 5 minutes to install.. $69.99 ... http://www.turbonator.com/ __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

10-13-2005, 10:24 AM	#11 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,300 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Today 03:43 PM	1.8L is 1.8L is 1.8L. In NA it can only breath so much air and can produce so much power. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

10-13-2005, 10:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
fanOFcelicas4lifeFOOL Posts: 92 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 10-13-2005 11:11 AM	is the turbonator shit for real? Have u bought it? __________________ WHUUDUP NOW BIE????

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