Pros & cons of TRD lowering springs for 2000-05 Celica G

**Uberay** · 09-25-2005, 01:21 PM

My 2001 Celica GT is in excellent condition, but I'm seeing a noticeable increase in body roll. *The car is used only in city & short intercity trips. *

I have stock rims and tires, a TRD cat-back system and an AEM CAI (and changed to Honda S2000 antenna). I'm trying to get some experienced advice about TRD suspension parts. *Toyota dealer already sold me a set of TRD lowering springs, but can't advise at all about my pros and cons.

For instance, I need to know: what the specs are on the TRD lowering springs?*Can anyone confirm 1-3/8ths inches in the front, and 1-7/8ths inches in the rear? *

Assuming I go with the lowering springs only, would I correct the body roll problems? *Should I definitely replace my shocks with TRD shocks?

Hey bud, thanks for your time!!

**Celicon** · 09-25-2005, 01:31 PM

There's a TRD Coilover suspension kit available which is great. Trust me I know.

**Sergio** · 09-25-2005, 01:43 PM

i drove in a celica with trd springs and shocks. it was nice, not too stiff and handling was really good.

there are plenty of ppl with experience here, wait a day or two to get a good responce.

**Burrcold** · 09-25-2005, 01:45 PM

get a set of Tein Basics and call it a day.

**scotty01** · 09-26-2005, 03:53 PM

It really depends on how low you want to go. There are so many different springs available for the Celica. The TRD only gives a very minor drop. This is great if that's all you want. If you have a steep driveway or use a parking garage then odds are you don't want to be sitting too low. Me personally, I used to have TRD springs but it didn't suit my tastes. My Celica is a show car and I wanted it down low. So I sold them and bought some Skunk2 adjustable coils and a set of Koni Yellow adjustable shocks/struts to support the agressive drop. I'm down about 2.5" now which is perfect IMHO. However I still might switch out to air ride down the road.

So like I said you have a number of choices for suspension but it ultimately depends on where you want the ride height.

**Dgordon** · 09-26-2005, 10:24 PM

Uberay, can definitely recommend the TRD springs. The drop is approx 1.1 inch all around. If you search this board, the recommendation is that you do the struts at the same time. I can second this. The stockers do work well for a time, but they are always bouncy. They simply lack the damping to manage the slightly lower drop. I can recommend Tokico blues. They are a very good match to the TRD's. Ube, I run my car all year. I would not want to go lower. For a more enhanced drop, the other choice I have heard good things on are Tein S-techs. Slightly lower, 1.5. Word is if you go lower than 1.5, even aftermarket struts do not do well. Hope this helps.

**DiGABLE** · 09-27-2005, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold

get a set of Tein Basics and call it a day.

^^^ he is a wise man

I'll sell you my set. pm me.

**bLazeceli02** · 10-01-2005, 10:49 AM

My friend has a set of Tein s techs he is going to sell me so should i replace anything else at the same time or just stick with the coilovers?

**Uberay** · 10-28-2005, 12:00 AM

Here's what I eventually did.... *Thanks for the advice everyone!
I went down to Toyota and had them swap my sway bars for the TRD bars (without tower braces), *Next, they swapped my springs for TRD high performance springs (1" down), my shocks for TRD performance shocks, did a wheel alignment, and tightened the steering. *All the parts and labour came in at about CDN $1750, at Dixie Toyota in Mississauga.
The body roll is now fully taken care. Everything is just great. *The ride is more comfortable than ever, now, due to the extra stability. One thing is gone, though, with the changes: *the go-cart-like nimble handling that was the hallmark of the stock version, especially around a tight intersection. *But it's more amazing than ever on the open road.

**Sergio** · 10-28-2005, 12:32 AM

thanks for the heads up!

so springs, shocks and sway bars + labour came out to 1750?

**Uberay** · 10-29-2005, 12:36 AM

Good question. *I have the receipt in front of me now, so I can be more accurate. It looks like I neglected the cost of the sway bars which I paid for separately about a month ago. *Sorry! *Here's the true story:

Parts * * * * * * * * * * * * *List * *Unit Price
Springs/Shock Set.....1080...........950
Sway Bars front
and rear....................................793
Labour:
Installation..................................672
Wheel alignment............................99
Total before taxes......................2514

**Burrcold** · 10-29-2005, 01:02 AM

oh wow.....sorry to say man but you got ripped apart with the labour costs. I could have gotten you that done for $150 excluding the alignment which I still could have got you for $60. Not sure about the current prices for the parts though.

**Sergio** · 10-29-2005, 01:21 AM

yeah this is the price you have to pay for these parts to be warrantied by toyota. but if you know someone at the dealer you can get that done way cheaper i guess.

**Sergio** · 10-30-2005, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burrcold

oh wow.....sorry to say man but you got ripped apart with the labour costs. *I could have gotten you that done for $150 excluding the alignment which I still could have got you for $60. *Not sure about the current prices for the parts though.

know a place, or is this through your work?

09-25-2005, 01:21 PM	#1 (permalink)
Uberay Posts: 8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 01-02-2006 06:30 PM	Pros & cons of TRD lowering springs for 2000-05 Celica G My 2001 Celica GT is in excellent condition, but I'm seeing a noticeable increase in body roll. The car is used only in city & short intercity trips. I have stock rims and tires, a TRD cat-back system and an AEM CAI (and changed to Honda S2000 antenna). I'm trying to get some experienced advice about TRD suspension parts. Toyota dealer already sold me a set of TRD lowering springs, but can't advise at all about my pros and cons. For instance, I need to know: what the specs are on the TRD lowering springs?Can anyone confirm 1-3/8ths inches in the front, and 1-7/8ths inches in the rear? * Assuming I go with the lowering springs only, would I correct the body roll problems? *Should I definitely replace my shocks with TRD shocks? Hey bud, thanks for your time!!

09-25-2005, 01:45 PM	#4 (permalink)
Burrcold Location: Toronto Posts: 6,403 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: Yesterday 07:09 PM Vehicle: 08 Lexus IS250 2nd Vehicle: 08 Acura CSX	get a set of Tein Basics and call it a day. __________________

09-26-2005, 03:53 PM	#5 (permalink)
scotty01 Location: Waterford, Ontario Posts: 482 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 09-24-2007 10:44 AM	It really depends on how low you want to go. There are so many different springs available for the Celica. The TRD only gives a very minor drop. This is great if that's all you want. If you have a steep driveway or use a parking garage then odds are you don't want to be sitting too low. Me personally, I used to have TRD springs but it didn't suit my tastes. My Celica is a show car and I wanted it down low. So I sold them and bought some Skunk2 adjustable coils and a set of Koni Yellow adjustable shocks/struts to support the agressive drop. I'm down about 2.5" now which is perfect IMHO. However I still might switch out to air ride down the road. So like I said you have a number of choices for suspension but it ultimately depends on where you want the ride height. __________________

10-01-2005, 10:49 AM	#8 (permalink)
bLazeceli02 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 23 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 04-18-2007 01:40 PM	My friend has a set of Tein s techs he is going to sell me so should i replace anything else at the same time or just stick with the coilovers? __________________ What kind of rice you burning in that?

10-29-2005, 01:02 AM	#12 (permalink)
Burrcold Location: Toronto Posts: 6,403 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: Yesterday 07:09 PM Vehicle: 08 Lexus IS250 2nd Vehicle: 08 Acura CSX	oh wow.....sorry to say man but you got ripped apart with the labour costs. I could have gotten you that done for $150 excluding the alignment which I still could have got you for $60. Not sure about the current prices for the parts though. __________________

09-25-2005, 01:31 PM	#2 (permalink)
Celicon Location: Brampton, Ontario Posts: 254 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 07-13-2008 12:06 PM	There's a TRD Coilover suspension kit available which is great. Trust me I know.

09-25-2005, 01:43 PM	#3 (permalink)
Sergio Location: tor Posts: 3,149 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 09-05-2008 05:05 PM	i drove in a celica with trd springs and shocks. it was nice, not too stiff and handling was really good. there are plenty of ppl with experience here, wait a day or two to get a good responce.

09-26-2005, 10:24 PM	#6 (permalink)
Dgordon Location: Ajax Posts: 93 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 09-04-2008 10:07 PM	Uberay, can definitely recommend the TRD springs. The drop is approx 1.1 inch all around. If you search this board, the recommendation is that you do the struts at the same time. I can second this. The stockers do work well for a time, but they are always bouncy. They simply lack the damping to manage the slightly lower drop. I can recommend Tokico blues. They are a very good match to the TRD's. Ube, I run my car all year. I would not want to go lower. For a more enhanced drop, the other choice I have heard good things on are Tein S-techs. Slightly lower, 1.5. Word is if you go lower than 1.5, even aftermarket struts do not do well. Hope this helps.

10-28-2005, 12:00 AM	#9 (permalink)
Uberay Posts: 8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 01-02-2006 06:30 PM	Here's what I eventually did.... Thanks for the advice everyone! I went down to Toyota and had them swap my sway bars for the TRD bars (without tower braces), Next, they swapped my springs for TRD high performance springs (1" down), my shocks for TRD performance shocks, did a wheel alignment, and tightened the steering. All the parts and labour came in at about CDN $1750, at Dixie Toyota in Mississauga. The body roll is now fully taken care. Everything is just great. The ride is more comfortable than ever, now, due to the extra stability. One thing is gone, though, with the changes: the go-cart-like nimble handling that was the hallmark of the stock version, especially around a tight intersection. But it's more amazing than ever on the open road.

10-28-2005, 12:32 AM	#10 (permalink)
Sergio Location: tor Posts: 3,149 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 09-05-2008 05:05 PM	thanks for the heads up! so springs, shocks and sway bars + labour came out to 1750?

10-29-2005, 12:36 AM	#11 (permalink)
Uberay Posts: 8 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 01-02-2006 06:30 PM	Good question. I have the receipt in front of me now, so I can be more accurate. It looks like I neglected the cost of the sway bars which I paid for separately about a month ago. Sorry! Here's the true story: Parts * * * * * * * * * * * List *Unit Price Springs/Shock Set.....1080...........950 Sway Bars front and rear....................................793 Labour: Installation..................................672 Wheel alignment............................99 Total before taxes......................2514

10-29-2005, 01:21 AM	#13 (permalink)
Sergio Location: tor Posts: 3,149 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 09-05-2008 05:05 PM	yeah this is the price you have to pay for these parts to be warrantied by toyota. but if you know someone at the dealer you can get that done way cheaper i guess.

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