WOW - My 5M GT-S Gear Ratios - Interesting

CONTROL ONE · 10-20-2004, 08:36 AM

well now that my car is finally back, i get to have some fun with it. first off, let me just say that LIFT + CAI = HEAVEN. the changeover in sound once you hit lift is unbelieveable!

because this engine was intended to be mated to a 6spd, it results in VERY long gears, check it out:

RPM 1st Gear 2nd Gear 3rd Gear 4th Gear 5th Gear Reverse
800 6 11 15 20 25 6
1000 8 13 18 25 31 8
2000 16 27 37 50 63 16
3000 24 40 55 75 94 24
4000 32 54 74 100 126 32
5000 41 67 92 124 157 39
5800 47 78 107 144 183 46
6000 49 81 111 149 189 47
6200 50 84 114 154 195 49
7000 57 94 129 174 220 55
8000 65 108 148 199 252 63
8200 66 111 151 204 258 65
8400 68 113 155 209 265 66
8600 70 116 159 214 271 68

anyways, these are SPEEDS IN KM/H for each of my gears at a particular RPM (left column)

what's important are my MAX SPEED in each gear - it's insane!!!

RPM 1 2 3 4 5 R
8600 70 116 159 214 271 68

i can drive on the highway in 2nd gear and max out 3rd gear at 160 KM/H

this was much easier but less fun than physically seeing what my max's were

**supercarman** · 10-20-2004, 09:14 AM

i was actually going to ask you about that. whats your engine speed in 5th around 120?

how's hitting the 1-2 shift in lift?

**MartinGouda** · 10-20-2004, 09:51 AM

you should boost it...

CONTROL ONE · 10-20-2004, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by supercarman

i was actually going to ask you about that. whats your engine speed in 5th around 120?

how's hitting the 1-2 shift in lift?

according to the chart, about 3800 RPM

haven't tried yet (still going easy on the motor) but i don't think it'll be too hard. Lift is from 5800-8600 on my car.

**Ratko** · 10-20-2004, 11:46 AM

welcome to the long gear club!

**Burrcold** · 10-20-2004, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratko

welcome to the long gear club!

I was a member long before my cars

**DaksGT** · 10-20-2004, 03:40 PM

Thats not too good. I don't think the motor has enough torque to back up those gears, I mean you could argue that you stay in the power band longer, but the lack of torque on the highway I assume would do mor harm than good. As well I would consider changing the tranny oil every 7k or so seeing as how the GT synchros were no where near designed to withhold that extra 16oo rpm.
All in all, respect Grant, you were a pioneer, and if I keep the car this is the route I am most likely taking.

CONTROL ONE · 10-20-2004, 03:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaksGT

Thats not too good. I don't think the motor has enough torque to back up those gears, I mean you could argue that you stay in the power band longer, but the lack of torque on the highway I assume would do mor harm than good. As well I would consider changing the tranny oil every 7k or so seeing as how the GT synchros were no where near designed to withhold that extra 16oo rpm.
All in all, respect Grant, you were a pioneer, and if I keep the car this is the route I am most likely taking.

thanks dave.

lack of torque on the highway seems like an oxymoron to me as you are usually just cruising on the highway. i have absolutely no bogging or flat spots in the torque curve that i can feel so all is well with me. if i need more power, i just drop a gear

ya, i was planning on changing it quite frequently actually. 7K seems a bit too much, probably every other or every 3rd oil change

dave, you have to drive my car to let me know what you think

**DaksGT** · 10-20-2004, 03:48 PM

So, now you're running RPS GT clutch, stock GTS flywheel, and GT tranny?
Are you gonna tune the PFC?

CONTROL ONE · 10-20-2004, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaksGT

So, now you're running RPS GT clutch, stock GTS flywheel, and GT tranny?
Are you gonna tune the PFC?

correct

GT tranny
GT RPS street max clutch
GT-S flywheel
GT-S power fc

PFC came pre-tuned for i/e from MWR. i will prolly have it further tuned come spring time. are there any shops around here that do that?

**RN2NVS** · 10-20-2004, 04:01 PM

NHR has the best tuner around
paul - neetronics
i'll take you there...im a regular lol

**DaksGT** · 10-20-2004, 04:03 PM

DPE used to do it, but I think they only tune bikes now. That place Frank got his car tuned seems good, they had fast cars in the driveway, Franks car was fast and it didnt blow up so I gather they do know what they are doing. I believe its called neetronics.Get it tuned it will make a world of a difference. One thing though, when you bought the motor from the junkyard, did you get it compression tested?

**supercarman** · 10-20-2004, 04:04 PM

paul=tuning god.

**RN2NVS** · 10-20-2004, 04:05 PM

neetronics tunes all sorts of cars
and usually has a two months waiting list

CONTROL ONE · 10-20-2004, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaksGT

DPE used to do it, but I think they only tune bikes now. That place Frank got his car tuned seems good, they had fast cars in the driveway, Franks car was fast and it didnt blow up so I gather they do know what they are doing. I believe its called neetronics.Get it tuned it will make a world of a difference. One thing though, when you bought the motor from the junkyard, did you get it compression tested?

nope, but the shop did.

+-5 psi in all 4 cylinders

**Sal** · 10-24-2004, 11:50 PM

good to see the car is back on teh road.

How u liking lift?

CONTROL ONE · 10-25-2004, 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sagaboy77

good to see the car is back on teh road.

How u liking lift?

lovin it

10-20-2004, 08:36 AM	#1 (permalink)
CONTROL ONE Banned Location: Toronto Posts: 3,113 Join Date: Sep 2003 Last On: 05-31-2006 10:05 AM	WOW - My 5M GT-S Gear Ratios - Interesting well now that my car is finally back, i get to have some fun with it. first off, let me just say that LIFT + CAI = HEAVEN. the changeover in sound once you hit lift is unbelieveable! because this engine was intended to be mated to a 6spd, it results in VERY long gears, check it out: RPM 1st Gear 2nd Gear 3rd Gear 4th Gear 5th Gear Reverse 800 6 11 15 20 25 6 1000 8 13 18 25 31 8 2000 16 27 37 50 63 16 3000 24 40 55 75 94 24 4000 32 54 74 100 126 32 5000 41 67 92 124 157 39 5800 47 78 107 144 183 46 6000 49 81 111 149 189 47 6200 50 84 114 154 195 49 7000 57 94 129 174 220 55 8000 65 108 148 199 252 63 8200 66 111 151 204 258 65 8400 68 113 155 209 265 66 8600 70 116 159 214 271 68 anyways, these are SPEEDS IN KM/H for each of my gears at a particular RPM (left column) what's important are my MAX SPEED in each gear - it's insane!!! RPM 1 2 3 4 5 R 8600 70 116 159 214 271 68 i can drive on the highway in 2nd gear and max out 3rd gear at 160 KM/H this was much easier but less fun than physically seeing what my max's were

10-20-2004, 09:14 AM	#2 (permalink)
supercarman Location: Mississauga Posts: 967 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-11-2008 12:12 PM	i was actually going to ask you about that. whats your engine speed in 5th around 120? how's hitting the 1-2 shift in lift? __________________ Proffesional Slacker.

10-20-2004, 09:51 AM	#3 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 01:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	you should boost it... __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

10-20-2004, 03:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
DaksGT Location: Monaco Posts: 5,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-07-2008 09:26 PM	Thats not too good. I don't think the motor has enough torque to back up those gears, I mean you could argue that you stay in the power band longer, but the lack of torque on the highway I assume would do mor harm than good. As well I would consider changing the tranny oil every 7k or so seeing as how the GT synchros were no where near designed to withhold that extra 16oo rpm. All in all, respect Grant, you were a pioneer, and if I keep the car this is the route I am most likely taking. __________________

10-20-2004, 03:48 PM	#9 (permalink)
DaksGT Location: Monaco Posts: 5,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-07-2008 09:26 PM	So, now you're running RPS GT clutch, stock GTS flywheel, and GT tranny? Are you gonna tune the PFC? __________________

10-20-2004, 11:46 AM	#5 (permalink)
Ratko it was all a dream Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 9,863,211 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 10-10-2008 03:30 PM Vehicle: 91 MR2 Turbo 2nd Vehicle: 96 Civic Hatch	welcome to the long gear club!

10-20-2004, 04:01 PM	#11 (permalink)
RN2NVS Moderator Location: Toronto Posts: 10,244 Join Date: Aug 2003 Last On: 06-30-2008 08:41 PM	NHR has the best tuner around paul - neetronics i'll take you there...im a regular lol __________________

10-20-2004, 04:03 PM	#12 (permalink)
DaksGT Location: Monaco Posts: 5,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-07-2008 09:26 PM	DPE used to do it, but I think they only tune bikes now. That place Frank got his car tuned seems good, they had fast cars in the driveway, Franks car was fast and it didnt blow up so I gather they do know what they are doing. I believe its called neetronics.Get it tuned it will make a world of a difference. One thing though, when you bought the motor from the junkyard, did you get it compression tested? __________________

10-20-2004, 04:04 PM	#13 (permalink)
supercarman Location: Mississauga Posts: 967 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-11-2008 12:12 PM	paul=tuning god. __________________ Proffesional Slacker.

10-20-2004, 04:05 PM	#14 (permalink)
RN2NVS Moderator Location: Toronto Posts: 10,244 Join Date: Aug 2003 Last On: 06-30-2008 08:41 PM	neetronics tunes all sorts of cars and usually has a two months waiting list __________________

10-24-2004, 11:50 PM	#16 (permalink)
Sal Location: Windsor Posts: 2,231 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: Yesterday 04:20 PM Vehicle: 07 Dakota 2nd Vehicle: 02 Celica GTS	good to see the car is back on teh road. How u liking lift? __________________ Let it not be said dat I iz a man dat does not care.