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Old 04-15-2010, 12:28 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

Ok, Now I realize that anything can be done with money.. which is something I dont have, So here are my questions, I realize that the 2jz-gte is a Supra engine, but I would like to drop it in my 2001 toyota celica, now this Modification will be something down the line, but I'd like to at least get some tips on.
Does it make a difference that the engine is for a RWD car?
Its it possible that it would Bolt up?
I mean that engine with 30k miles on it is likely to run 2500 bucks on ebay..
Another thing, 3S-GTE engine.. I realize its a 4 cylinder, probably a more realistic idea for a swap. however, I also read up that the 2ZZ-GE was a better engine than the 3S-GTE when it was Modded. But that was only due to the oil and coolant intake I believe. just Newer technology.
I guess what I'm really asking is What would probably be the Best LONG term choice.
The stock Supra twin turbo engine just seems like choice, but because the celica is such a small car, I dont even know if I could drop an inline 6 under the hood.

Please any advice, tips, opinions, pointers, you name it, I'd be glad to hear everyones two cents on this one, cause like I said, either way this will be a costly project.
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

please grab your keyboard and beat yourself in the face really fucking hard for even mentioning the 2jz.

your talking about 3 majors engines and 3 completely diffrent applications.

for the 7th gen, the 2zz is the best choice.

to get a 3sgte to fit your going to have to modify the motor mounts, also are we talking about fwd or awd. theres multiple applications. and completely diffrent things that need to be done. FWD being the easiest to do. awd. thats another story

the 2jz, will fit but is not practical or feaseable esp if you dont own a shop or are on a budget, to get this motor to even fit you need a SHIT TON of fabrication

as for saying witch motor is better. well there all good. like i said it all depends on what platform/application you have/want. but for the celica the 2jz shouldnt even be mentioned.

there has been a 2jz in a 7th gen, there has been a 3sgte in a 7th gen, but remember this these are done by shops not by people like us. they have a near unlimited ammount of cash and time dedicated to a major project like this.

this isnt ment to flame you. this is to beat sence into the newer members. some supras are droping in the 3sgte. so think about it.

i wish you luck in whatever platform you chose. if you need any help please feel free to ask.
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

hahahahahahahahahahaha!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

if ur gonna swap, put a 2zz in it.
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

1ZZ is 4 cyl inline. 2JZ is 6 cyl inline. You'll need space for 2 more cylinder, say 50% longer then your 1ZZ. Now open your hood and see if you got space for that. I guess you're looking at adding about 2ft to the width of your car. Hope you like wide body.

Either way you're looking at over $20000.

Cheapest way is buy the engine, put it in your hatch and call it a day
You maybe able to buy a blown one for a few hundred. Its a Celica with 2JZ

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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

why not swap out your engine with a jet engine. lmfao

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i mean you'll probably have the fastest celica in the world. hahaha
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

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why not swap out your engine with a jet engine. lmfao

YouTube - Monster Garage Toyota Celica Jet Car - Hellica

i mean you'll probably have the fastest celica in the world. hahaha

Too Cool!! Looks like they stretched the rear of the car,, I kinda like the look.

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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

I'm pretty sure sub said it all. Just stick with the 2zz. It's going to cost you a bit to even go from a 1zz to a 2zz as it is. So just don't think about even doing something crazy like making a celica into a supra cause it's going to cost one hell of alot.
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

Only if you still want to do it after you've read this:
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

Like I said, All opinions and shit will be taken into account, so It doesnt really matter, after reading through what happened to that one guys celica that had the 1ZZ-FE how it had the rings go out and stuff I'm just looking at some good ideas for an engine swap. I mean its not like any of it cant be done, even if the moderator was trying to make his point.. it still doesnt mean it cant be done, it just means Thats its really not a sensible choice.

So yeah I'm gonna still look into it. I just wanted a heads up. But yeah I definitely dont want to Make it a jet car. lol. But It'd be nice, to just deck out my ride. Like I posted before, its something way down the line... So LOL, not a real big deal. But yeah I'm really thinking about just going ahead and Modding out the 2ZZ, basically cause it was the optional engine for the 7th Gen Celica. Just definitely wanted a heads up on the idea. lol So its all good.
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

ive seen a guy put the celica front end on a MkIV supra which was cool
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

Like I was saying. Wasn't trying to bash you. Just making a clear point. If your worried about the rings. Id try building the motor you have. The 1zz ain't a bad motor. Just crappy piston design.
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

just make sure you keep up with regular maintence and dont do what i did and let someone else drive it that doesnt check things
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

hell if you do something like that, you are prob gonna do a rwd conversion, then why not just go with oh gee, I dont know an i-force maybe, or if you want to stay with a fwd set up, you could always do a custom v6 transplant. the v6 in the venza, 3.5-liter double overhead cam (DOHC) 24-valve Dual VVT-i V6; 268 hp @ 6200 rpm, 246 lb.-ft. @ 4700 rpm
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

ur still thinking about that iforce conversion rnt u jon
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

you know it! but I need a crap load of cash, cuz I really want to do that v3 swap, and build the one I have now too, so i need to get another 2 celi's.
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

here you go jon
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cool, thanks ak
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

plus, the 2 of us are THE thread jack pros. lol
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

yeah. i should crack down on you two but ehh thats what makes celispeed celispeed imo
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Re: Engine swap from 1ZZ-FE to 2JZ-GTE

plus wheres the fun in having a thread stay on topic. but to stay on topic. i would love to see a built monster 2jz in a celica converted to rwd it would make for a great sleeper.
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