2000 GTS disappointing dyno results

**00GTS** · 05-01-2005, 11:52 PM

hey guys, I went to a dyno test a few days ago....I was expecting much better results than what I got. My best run was 150.1 whp or something like that. I will post dyno graph tomorrow. The car seems to run very lean.

Here is the modds I have, Injen Cold Air Intake, TRD header, TRD catback, and lightened flywheel.

So now I want to get some kind of A/F controller so that I can tune it properly, I know the best way to go is Apexi Power FC, but that is kind of out of my budget right now, so I was wondering if I can get Apexi SAFC, would that work?

thanks!

**Sal** · 05-02-2005, 12:04 AM

safc will not work the oem ECU will change back to the stock settings.

TRD header will not make much if any power it is made to be used with the high comp pistons only. P&P your stock header and you will get better gains.

**mista** · 05-02-2005, 12:31 AM

Wow. That is disappointing.

Is this an auto or 6 speed?

**00GTS** · 05-02-2005, 12:50 AM

oh forgot to say, it's a 6 speed

**Janus** · 05-02-2005, 08:40 PM

OMG thats terrible. I dynoed 160 stock... The Super AFC will help. You can actually wire the V-AFC to control lift when it engages and when it disengages. Those will help a little.

**Sal** · 05-02-2005, 09:32 PM

the afc DOES NOT work on the celica

**Moondoggz** · 05-02-2005, 10:24 PM

How many pulls did you do? was this your first one? Did you only do one pull? Was the dyno SAE corrected? Was the engine fully warm? Lots of variables.

**00GTS** · 05-03-2005, 01:43 AM

well I did 5 runs, and this was the best run, and yes the engine was warm since I drove it around 100 km from my house to dyno place...and I don't understand how some of you say SAFC won't work on celica, and some of you are saying it will work, so which one is it...???

and here is a dyno graph

**00GTS** · 05-03-2005, 01:46 AM

oh and sorry for the huge pictures, did not realize they are that big

**DaksGT** · 05-03-2005, 07:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Janus

OMG thats terrible. I dynoed 160 stock... The Super AFC will help. You can actually wire the V-AFC to control lift when it engages and when it disengages. Those will help a little.

No you can't. It wont work.

**00GTS** · 05-04-2005, 02:19 PM

ok guys here is the link with many GT/GTS dyno graphs, many of these guys have SAFC, so how come it works for them???

http://newcelica.org/other/dyno/page.php

**DiGABLE** · 05-04-2005, 02:23 PM

there was a big thread about the safc on newcelica a long while back. safc will hold your settings for a bit, but the ecu will eventually cancel them out. that's the entire reason why people are getting pfc now and eliminating the stock ecu

as for your low dyno results, could be a few things... dirty mafs, broken lift bolt, possibly bigger heavier wheels/tires, and the engine temp can definitely factor in as well

**Ratko** · 05-04-2005, 02:35 PM

didn't Kinezo have similar dyno results on his GTS also?

**DiGABLE** · 05-04-2005, 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ratko

didn't Kinezo have similar dyno results on his GTS also?

he hasn't been around much lately. he got his 15mins of fame when he was front row for the CS PASmag shoot, then i think he moved to greece

**00GTS** · 05-05-2005, 12:16 AM

and what do you guys think about my A/F ratio, that looks too lean to me....

**Kinezo** · 05-07-2005, 09:07 PM

I'm still alive and well - just working like a 8year old in a sweatshop - my affectionately called 'Factory Defect of a car's best result was a 163 - what most cars get stock - and i was modded with a injen cold air, and blitz exhaust, probably with a dirty filter etc etc...i just liked the noise it made

05-01-2005, 11:52 PM	#1 (permalink)
00GTS Posts: 9 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-02-2005 08:30 PM	2000 GTS disappointing dyno results hey guys, I went to a dyno test a few days ago....I was expecting much better results than what I got. My best run was 150.1 whp or something like that. I will post dyno graph tomorrow. The car seems to run very lean. Here is the modds I have, Injen Cold Air Intake, TRD header, TRD catback, and lightened flywheel. So now I want to get some kind of A/F controller so that I can tune it properly, I know the best way to go is Apexi Power FC, but that is kind of out of my budget right now, so I was wondering if I can get Apexi SAFC, would that work? thanks!

05-02-2005, 12:04 AM	#2 (permalink)
Sal Location: Windsor Posts: 2,231 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 11-21-2008 04:46 PM Vehicle: 07 Dakota 2nd Vehicle: 02 Celica GTS	safc will not work the oem ECU will change back to the stock settings. TRD header will not make much if any power it is made to be used with the high comp pistons only. P&P your stock header and you will get better gains. __________________ Let it not be said dat I iz a man dat does not care.

05-02-2005, 12:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
mista Location: Whitby Posts: 526 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 10-11-2008 12:51 AM Vehicle: Matrix XRS	Wow. That is disappointing. Is this an auto or 6 speed? __________________

05-02-2005, 08:40 PM	#5 (permalink)
Janus Posts: 1 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 05-03-2005 10:27 AM	OMG thats terrible. I dynoed 160 stock... The Super AFC will help. You can actually wire the V-AFC to control lift when it engages and when it disengages. Those will help a little. __________________

05-02-2005, 09:32 PM	#6 (permalink)
Sal Location: Windsor Posts: 2,231 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 11-21-2008 04:46 PM Vehicle: 07 Dakota 2nd Vehicle: 02 Celica GTS	the afc DOES NOT work on the celica __________________ Let it not be said dat I iz a man dat does not care.

05-02-2005, 12:50 AM	#4 (permalink)
00GTS Posts: 9 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-02-2005 08:30 PM	oh forgot to say, it's a 6 speed

05-02-2005, 10:24 PM	#7 (permalink)
Moondoggz Location: Toronto Posts: 699 Join Date: Aug 2003 Last On: 02-07-2007 10:43 PM	How many pulls did you do? was this your first one? Did you only do one pull? Was the dyno SAE corrected? Was the engine fully warm? Lots of variables. __________________

05-03-2005, 01:43 AM	#8 (permalink)
00GTS Posts: 9 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-02-2005 08:30 PM	well I did 5 runs, and this was the best run, and yes the engine was warm since I drove it around 100 km from my house to dyno place...and I don't understand how some of you say SAFC won't work on celica, and some of you are saying it will work, so which one is it...??? and here is a dyno graph

05-03-2005, 01:46 AM	#9 (permalink)
00GTS Posts: 9 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-02-2005 08:30 PM	oh and sorry for the huge pictures, did not realize they are that big

05-04-2005, 02:19 PM	#11 (permalink)
00GTS Posts: 9 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-02-2005 08:30 PM	ok guys here is the link with many GT/GTS dyno graphs, many of these guys have SAFC, so how come it works for them??? http://newcelica.org/other/dyno/page.php

05-04-2005, 02:23 PM	#12 (permalink)
DiGABLE Location: digable planet Posts: 1,935 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 11-09-2008 10:56 PM	there was a big thread about the safc on newcelica a long while back. safc will hold your settings for a bit, but the ecu will eventually cancel them out. that's the entire reason why people are getting pfc now and eliminating the stock ecu as for your low dyno results, could be a few things... dirty mafs, broken lift bolt, possibly bigger heavier wheels/tires, and the engine temp can definitely factor in as well __________________

05-04-2005, 02:35 PM	#13 (permalink)
Ratko it was all a dream Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 9,863,211 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 11-15-2008 01:57 PM Vehicle: 91 MR2 Turbo 2nd Vehicle: 96 Civic Hatch	didn't Kinezo have similar dyno results on his GTS also?

05-05-2005, 12:16 AM	#15 (permalink)
00GTS Posts: 9 Join Date: Sep 2004 Last On: 09-02-2005 08:30 PM	and what do you guys think about my A/F ratio, that looks too lean to me....

05-07-2005, 09:07 PM	#16 (permalink)
Kinezo Ninja Lurker Location: Trawna Posts: 327 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 08-03-2008 08:59 PM Vehicle: '91 Stealth TT	I'm still alive and well - just working like a 8year old in a sweatshop - my affectionately called 'Factory Defect of a car's best result was a 163 - what most cars get stock - and i was modded with a injen cold air, and blitz exhaust, probably with a dirty filter etc etc...i just liked the noise it made __________________ Save the whales. Collect the whole set.

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