1/4 mile time

**Izzy** · 08-15-2009, 12:30 AM

i was just looking up the 1/4 mile time for the 7th gen's and i was surprised to find that the 2000 gts is faster then the 2001 and up how does that work out? shouldnt it be the other way around the 2000 does 15.2 where as the newer ones do 15.6 and up

**FlyCanadianGuy** · 08-15-2009, 01:21 AM

Blame california.

**Izzy** · 08-15-2009, 11:22 AM

i dont get it? i know that the newer celicas i think in 03, they started making celicas with cabin filters that could affect its pass time but it still wouldnt be almost .5 of a second difference....

**FlyCanadianGuy** · 08-15-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Izzy

i dont get it? i know that the newer celicas i think in 03, they started making celicas with cabin filters that could affect its pass time but it still wouldnt be almost .5 of a second difference....

Got a new test driver cuzz the other one quite? I have no idea. im GUESSING something to do emissions or safety related (detuning engine slightly or extra weight) Maybe diff tire size came on the 01?

**Izzy** · 08-16-2009, 01:32 AM

i dont really know but im gona get to the bottom of this....

**subspec** · 08-17-2009, 03:08 AM

its all about the driver. not the car. it just helps.

**TiGZ** · 08-17-2009, 05:15 AM

100% True-o^

What good is a fast car with a lame driver?

**subspec** · 08-17-2009, 05:35 AM

not necessarily lame but not as skilled. ive beaten alot of cars back when i was younger and was into the "street raceing" ordeal. and alot of them i probably shouldnt have been able to beat. but i did.

**akley88** · 08-17-2009, 08:56 AM

it also depends on track conditions weather tire pressure there is a lot involved in getting a good time.

JR · 08-17-2009, 05:38 PM

I could guess all day as well, but generally speaking, the later in a Generation a car gets, the heavier it gets. So, the '01+ are likely heavier than the '00. Emissions, they probably tried to get lower emissions on the '01+ as well, making them slightly slower.

If these are factory specs, I doubt the driver, track conditions, weather, or tire pressure would have much influence. It'd be pretty safe to guess that the factory would do the upmost to have the lowest time possible on their spec sheets.

Also, the '00 apparently had quite a few issues that needed to be resolved. So in efforts to resolve those issues, they probably had to change a few things, which could all have an effect on performance.

**Izzy** · 08-17-2009, 06:20 PM

thats got to be the most logical thing ive heard all day

and it makes sense too the heavier a car the slower it goes now that brings up the question why make a car heavier?

**Izzy** · 08-17-2009, 06:20 PM

espeicailly since the celica is suppose to be a sports car it wouldnt make sense to make it slower :S

**akley88** · 08-17-2009, 08:37 PM

you would have to add about 500 more pounds to make it that much slower. cause every 100 pounds heavier is another tenth. the weight of my car is the same as an 00 according to the info on the doorsil but it could be something to do with emissions that stuff usually helps slow down a car.

**Izzy** · 08-17-2009, 08:41 PM

so what ur sayiong is that the newer models would have an exhaust that further restricts air flow for better emssions? and thats y they would be slower?

**akley88** · 08-17-2009, 09:11 PM

could b i dont know why it would be that much slower though half a second is a big difference in 1/4 mile times maybe the powerband was better in the 2000 model. one thing i know is that the muffler on the celica was bigger then my friends diesel truck.

**subspec** · 08-18-2009, 04:26 AM

i still say its all about the driver. perfect example. ive beaten v6 mustangs, v8 mustangs, v6 3000gt, integra type r, rsx's, rx8. bmw 530I numerous cars that should have been able to beat me but havnt. so its all about the driver. and 1/2 a second aint that big of a leap.

**akley88** · 08-18-2009, 09:05 AM

your probably right subspec. all i ment is if all things remain the same the weight the transmission and everything else is the same all it could be is the driver

**D-Lo** · 08-23-2009, 03:36 AM

i think i actually know this one. in 2000 the celica has a slightly higher redline than the 2001 (i forget the exact numbers) and up so assuming the driver was shifting at redline that could account for the change in time

**Izzy** · 08-23-2009, 02:51 PM

well a higher redline would result in a faster time....

08-15-2009, 12:30 AM	#1 (permalink)
Izzy Location: canada Posts: 94 Join Date: Jun 2009 Last On: 03-22-2012 04:16 PM	1/4 mile time i was just looking up the 1/4 mile time for the 7th gen's and i was surprised to find that the 2000 gts is faster then the 2001 and up how does that work out? shouldnt it be the other way around the 2000 does 15.2 where as the newer ones do 15.6 and up

08-15-2009, 01:21 AM	#2 (permalink)
FlyCanadianGuy Location: Stouffville Posts: 757 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-13-2012 11:55 PM	Re: 1/4 mile time Blame california. __________________ When The Gates Drop, the Bull Stops!

08-15-2009, 11:22 AM	#3 (permalink)
Izzy Location: canada Posts: 94 Join Date: Jun 2009 Last On: 03-22-2012 04:16 PM	Re: 1/4 mile time i dont get it? i know that the newer celicas i think in 03, they started making celicas with cabin filters that could affect its pass time but it still wouldnt be almost .5 of a second difference....

08-16-2009, 01:32 AM	#5 (permalink)
Izzy Location: canada Posts: 94 Join Date: Jun 2009 Last On: 03-22-2012 04:16 PM	Re: 1/4 mile time i dont really know but im gona get to the bottom of this....

08-17-2009, 03:08 AM	#6 (permalink)
subspec angry modder/5th gen guru Location: albuquerque Posts: 7,282 Join Date: Apr 2009 Last On: 12-17-2012 01:23 AM Vehicle: ST184 5SGTE 2nd Vehicle: 02 golf gls	Re: 1/4 mile time its all about the driver. not the car. it just helps. __________________

08-17-2009, 05:15 AM	#7 (permalink)
TiGZ Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 255 Join Date: Jul 2009 Last On: 01-27-2010 08:49 PM Vehicle: 96 Celica ST	Re: 1/4 mile time 100% True-o^ What good is a fast car with a lame driver? __________________ 1996 Toyota Celica ST 25th Anni. Edition #461

08-17-2009, 05:35 AM	#8 (permalink)
subspec angry modder/5th gen guru Location: albuquerque Posts: 7,282 Join Date: Apr 2009 Last On: 12-17-2012 01:23 AM Vehicle: ST184 5SGTE 2nd Vehicle: 02 golf gls	Re: 1/4 mile time not necessarily lame but not as skilled. ive beaten alot of cars back when i was younger and was into the "street raceing" ordeal. and alot of them i probably shouldnt have been able to beat. but i did. __________________

08-17-2009, 08:56 AM	#9 (permalink)
akley88 Watchn Super Speeders Location: reading, pa Posts: 3,706 Join Date: Jul 2009 Last On: 06-01-2012 07:07 PM Vehicle: 07 Eclipse GS-N	Re: 1/4 mile time it also depends on track conditions weather tire pressure there is a lot involved in getting a good time.

08-17-2009, 05:38 PM	#10 (permalink)
JR Resident 1st Gen Location: Hepworth, ON Posts: 3,413 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 08-06-2011 08:11 PM Vehicle: 97 Civic EX 2nd Vehicle: 77 Celica	Re: 1/4 mile time I could guess all day as well, but generally speaking, the later in a Generation a car gets, the heavier it gets. So, the '01+ are likely heavier than the '00. Emissions, they probably tried to get lower emissions on the '01+ as well, making them slightly slower. If these are factory specs, I doubt the driver, track conditions, weather, or tire pressure would have much influence. It'd be pretty safe to guess that the factory would do the upmost to have the lowest time possible on their spec sheets. Also, the '00 apparently had quite a few issues that needed to be resolved. So in efforts to resolve those issues, they probably had to change a few things, which could all have an effect on performance. __________________ J.R. Follow the '77 Celica Project www.youtube.com/user/N0CatchyName

08-17-2009, 06:20 PM	#11 (permalink)
Izzy Location: canada Posts: 94 Join Date: Jun 2009 Last On: 03-22-2012 04:16 PM	Re: 1/4 mile time thats got to be the most logical thing ive heard all day and it makes sense too the heavier a car the slower it goes now that brings up the question why make a car heavier?

08-17-2009, 06:20 PM	#12 (permalink)
Izzy Location: canada Posts: 94 Join Date: Jun 2009 Last On: 03-22-2012 04:16 PM	Re: 1/4 mile time espeicailly since the celica is suppose to be a sports car it wouldnt make sense to make it slower :S

08-17-2009, 08:37 PM	#13 (permalink)
akley88 Watchn Super Speeders Location: reading, pa Posts: 3,706 Join Date: Jul 2009 Last On: 06-01-2012 07:07 PM Vehicle: 07 Eclipse GS-N	Re: 1/4 mile time you would have to add about 500 more pounds to make it that much slower. cause every 100 pounds heavier is another tenth. the weight of my car is the same as an 00 according to the info on the doorsil but it could be something to do with emissions that stuff usually helps slow down a car.

08-17-2009, 08:41 PM	#14 (permalink)
Izzy Location: canada Posts: 94 Join Date: Jun 2009 Last On: 03-22-2012 04:16 PM	Re: 1/4 mile time so what ur sayiong is that the newer models would have an exhaust that further restricts air flow for better emssions? and thats y they would be slower?

08-17-2009, 09:11 PM	#15 (permalink)
akley88 Watchn Super Speeders Location: reading, pa Posts: 3,706 Join Date: Jul 2009 Last On: 06-01-2012 07:07 PM Vehicle: 07 Eclipse GS-N	Re: 1/4 mile time could b i dont know why it would be that much slower though half a second is a big difference in 1/4 mile times maybe the powerband was better in the 2000 model. one thing i know is that the muffler on the celica was bigger then my friends diesel truck.

08-18-2009, 04:26 AM	#16 (permalink)
subspec angry modder/5th gen guru Location: albuquerque Posts: 7,282 Join Date: Apr 2009 Last On: 12-17-2012 01:23 AM Vehicle: ST184 5SGTE 2nd Vehicle: 02 golf gls	Re: 1/4 mile time i still say its all about the driver. perfect example. ive beaten v6 mustangs, v8 mustangs, v6 3000gt, integra type r, rsx's, rx8. bmw 530I numerous cars that should have been able to beat me but havnt. so its all about the driver. and 1/2 a second aint that big of a leap. __________________ Last edited by subspec : 08-18-2009 at 04:34 AM.

08-18-2009, 09:05 AM	#17 (permalink)
akley88 Watchn Super Speeders Location: reading, pa Posts: 3,706 Join Date: Jul 2009 Last On: 06-01-2012 07:07 PM Vehicle: 07 Eclipse GS-N	Re: 1/4 mile time your probably right subspec. all i ment is if all things remain the same the weight the transmission and everything else is the same all it could be is the driver

08-23-2009, 03:36 AM	#18 (permalink)
D-Lo Location: Santa Fe Posts: 33 Join Date: Feb 2009 Last On: 10-15-2009 12:18 AM Vehicle: 2000 Celica GT 2nd Vehicle: 1979 Camaro Z28	Re: 1/4 mile time i think i actually know this one. in 2000 the celica has a slightly higher redline than the 2001 (i forget the exact numbers) and up so assuming the driver was shifting at redline that could account for the change in time

08-23-2009, 02:51 PM	#19 (permalink)
Izzy Location: canada Posts: 94 Join Date: Jun 2009 Last On: 03-22-2012 04:16 PM	Re: 1/4 mile time well a higher redline would result in a faster time....

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