port matching the 2ZZ exhaust manifold

**mista** · 03-21-2005, 02:11 PM

Anyone here done this?

**Pineapple** · 03-21-2005, 02:14 PM

Port the whole head. Won't do much just port the exhaust. I know a good shop for that. $650 to P&P my 5S head.

**mista** · 03-21-2005, 02:20 PM

Maybe later on down the road. Just need to free up the exhaust a little. Gonna add a new catback as well.

Shop = ?

**Pineapple** · 03-21-2005, 02:29 PM

G&R Automotive
151 Toryork Dr. Unit 13
Weston, Ontario M9L1X9
Canada
(416) 740-6668 Gary
Mon-Thu 9-7
Very nice guy, very knowledgable.
Tell him Frederick with blue Celica refer you.

**spoolin_gt** · 03-21-2005, 02:48 PM

650 for p&p??will it be the same for the 3sgte??planning to do that and also port the exhaust...have to change my headgasket so might as well do that at the same time

**spoolin_gt** · 03-21-2005, 02:49 PM

***fred..wanna help me take the head out??? :D

**Pineapple** · 03-21-2005, 02:50 PM

Probably. I paid $150 to P&P the intake manifold and TB also.
He claims 20% gain.

**Pineapple** · 03-21-2005, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoolin_gt

***fred..wanna help me take the head out??? :D

Its pretty hard with the engine in the car. Anything else you gonna do? Wanna drop the whole thing? Able to find a spare head?

**spoolin_gt** · 03-21-2005, 03:32 PM

I can find a spare head but it's from a 1st gen..dont know if they're both the same..
I have to do the head gasket so either way, I have to take off the head...I dont know if it's worth dropping the whole thing..

**Pineapple** · 03-21-2005, 03:37 PM

As long as you can get belt cover off, its ok. Need to remove the engine mount on that side also. Wiring harness need to come off. Fuel rail, coolant hose etc. By the time you finish, all you need is disconnect the shift cable, power steering and 3 engine mount to pull the engine. Remember the intake manifold gotta come out.

**mista** · 03-21-2005, 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pineapple

G&R Automotive
151 Toryork Dr. Unit 13
Weston, Ontario M9L1X9
Canada
(416) 740-6668 Gary
Mon-Thu 9-7
Very nice guy, very knowledgable.
Tell him Frederick with blue Celica refer you.

Thx for the 411.

**mista** · 03-22-2005, 02:26 PM

Blue Bomber from nc.org is offering to do it for $60US. Thoughts...

**Pineapple** · 03-22-2005, 03:05 PM

I won't. P&P is a pro-job. A good job will give you more power. A bad job will distroy the engine or waste money with no gain. Unless he can give you dyno prove of gain.
The best P&P is Extruded Honing somewhere in US.
Toyota do oil change for $50, the kid next door do it for $10, which one will you go?

I believe he just "polish" the intake manifold for 60US.

A proper P&P on the head involve multi-angle valve job which will totally screwup the engine if done by hand.

**mista** · 03-22-2005, 03:29 PM

It's just for the header.

**Pineapple** · 03-22-2005, 04:46 PM

Exhaust header? No need. Header should have bigger port then the head so exhaust gas won't reverse back into the cylinder.
For intake manifold, you'll need to port match it again after you port the head. Do everything one shot later.

**mista** · 03-22-2005, 09:44 PM

Well it seems there's about 5whp from doing this. http://www.newcelica.org/forums/show...threadid=60156

The header may have bigger ports than the head but I believe all they're trying to do is match it w/ the manifold gasket. Those few mm seem to make a difference.

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**Sal** · 03-22-2005, 09:59 PM

I was gonna do this to mine as well it is just eh flange that needs to be ported to match the piping. You can do it yourself it is not hard at all just takes a steady hand.

BTW don't bother p&p the intake manifold it dosen't do anything at all. I had mine done i have not seen any difference from stock.

03-21-2005, 02:11 PM	#1 (permalink)
mista Location: Whitby Posts: 526 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 10-11-2008 12:51 AM Vehicle: Matrix XRS	port matching the 2ZZ exhaust manifold Anyone here done this? __________________

03-21-2005, 02:14 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,282 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 01:05 AM	Port the whole head. Won't do much just port the exhaust. I know a good shop for that. $650 to P&P my 5S head. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

03-21-2005, 02:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
mista Location: Whitby Posts: 526 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 10-11-2008 12:51 AM Vehicle: Matrix XRS	Maybe later on down the road. Just need to free up the exhaust a little. Gonna add a new catback as well. Shop = ? __________________

03-21-2005, 02:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,282 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 01:05 AM	G&R Automotive 151 Toryork Dr. Unit 13 Weston, Ontario M9L1X9 Canada (416) 740-6668 Gary Mon-Thu 9-7 Very nice guy, very knowledgable. Tell him Frederick with blue Celica refer you. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

03-21-2005, 02:48 PM	#5 (permalink)
spoolin_gt Location: Scarborough Posts: 877 Join Date: Jan 2005 Last On: 11-20-2008 11:26 PM Vehicle: 01' S2000 2nd Vehicle: Infiniti QX4	650 for p&p??will it be the same for the 3sgte??planning to do that and also port the exhaust...have to change my headgasket so might as well do that at the same time __________________

03-21-2005, 02:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
spoolin_gt Location: Scarborough Posts: 877 Join Date: Jan 2005 Last On: 11-20-2008 11:26 PM Vehicle: 01' S2000 2nd Vehicle: Infiniti QX4	***fred..wanna help me take the head out??? :D __________________

03-21-2005, 02:50 PM	#7 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,282 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 01:05 AM	Probably. I paid $150 to P&P the intake manifold and TB also. He claims 20% gain. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

03-21-2005, 03:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
spoolin_gt Location: Scarborough Posts: 877 Join Date: Jan 2005 Last On: 11-20-2008 11:26 PM Vehicle: 01' S2000 2nd Vehicle: Infiniti QX4	I can find a spare head but it's from a 1st gen..dont know if they're both the same.. I have to do the head gasket so either way, I have to take off the head...I dont know if it's worth dropping the whole thing.. __________________

03-21-2005, 03:37 PM	#10 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,282 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 01:05 AM	As long as you can get belt cover off, its ok. Need to remove the engine mount on that side also. Wiring harness need to come off. Fuel rail, coolant hose etc. By the time you finish, all you need is disconnect the shift cable, power steering and 3 engine mount to pull the engine. Remember the intake manifold gotta come out. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

03-22-2005, 02:26 PM	#12 (permalink)
mista Location: Whitby Posts: 526 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 10-11-2008 12:51 AM Vehicle: Matrix XRS	Blue Bomber from nc.org is offering to do it for $60US. Thoughts... __________________

03-22-2005, 03:05 PM	#13 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,282 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 01:05 AM	I won't. P&P is a pro-job. A good job will give you more power. A bad job will distroy the engine or waste money with no gain. Unless he can give you dyno prove of gain. The best P&P is Extruded Honing somewhere in US. Toyota do oil change for $50, the kid next door do it for $10, which one will you go? I believe he just "polish" the intake manifold for 60US. A proper P&P on the head involve multi-angle valve job which will totally screwup the engine if done by hand. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

03-22-2005, 03:29 PM	#14 (permalink)
mista Location: Whitby Posts: 526 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 10-11-2008 12:51 AM Vehicle: Matrix XRS	It's just for the header. __________________

03-22-2005, 04:46 PM	#15 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,282 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 01:05 AM	Exhaust header? No need. Header should have bigger port then the head so exhaust gas won't reverse back into the cylinder. For intake manifold, you'll need to port match it again after you port the head. Do everything one shot later. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

03-22-2005, 09:44 PM	#16 (permalink)
mista Location: Whitby Posts: 526 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 10-11-2008 12:51 AM Vehicle: Matrix XRS	Well it seems there's about 5whp from doing this. http://www.newcelica.org/forums/show...threadid=60156 The header may have bigger ports than the head but I believe all they're trying to do is match it w/ the manifold gasket. Those few mm seem to make a difference. before (top) after (below): __________________

03-22-2005, 09:59 PM	#17 (permalink)
Sal Location: Windsor Posts: 2,231 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 11-21-2008 04:46 PM Vehicle: 07 Dakota 2nd Vehicle: 02 Celica GTS	I was gonna do this to mine as well it is just eh flange that needs to be ported to match the piping. You can do it yourself it is not hard at all just takes a steady hand. BTW don't bother p&p the intake manifold it dosen't do anything at all. I had mine done i have not seen any difference from stock. __________________ Let it not be said dat I iz a man dat does not care.