Help me on my 93 ST

**NappyCelica** · 12-17-2004, 06:49 PM

Hey guys, I came to the fourms after looking for hours for good performance parts for my 1993 Celica ST. I do NOT want Accessories,Body Kits, or Interior Things. Please post any sites that you recommend for buying engine performance parts. My car stock is 103 HP, I just installed my Muffler (Magna Flow) adding about 10% gain HP so, now im at 110. Im looking to spend up to 500$, and I want to get my car to at least 150 HP+

Thanks guys

**Ratko** · 12-17-2004, 07:08 PM

Im sorry to break the news, but there is no way you will make 150 HP on a 5SFE engine with $500. I know people who have done full cold air intake, headers, and full exhaust, and have just barely broke the 100 HP mark on the dyno.

I also seriously doubt you made a 10% increase in power with just a magnaflow muffler, but im sure it helped a bit over the stock unit.

If you think you're lucky, try a nitrous system.

**NappyCelica** · 12-17-2004, 07:14 PM

Ok, well how much money in your opnion will it take to hit the 150 HP range, I'd say my max is 1000$ I was just seeing what I could do for 500$ but if you could reply back That would be appericated

Thanks guys

**Ratko** · 12-17-2004, 07:33 PM

if i was in your shoes with $1000 to spend to reach 150 HP, i would do a light-duty 5SFTE turbo setup running @ 5psi. I'd be on a budget, meaning i'd probably source the parts for it from junkyards (www.car-part.com) and individuals on MR2 forums (www.mr2oc.com). This would include the 3SGTE manifold and turbo. I would get the stock oil pan fitted for the turbo oil return line, and use a 3SGTE MAP sensor, and injectors for fuel, controlled by a cheap SAFC unit which you could get for under $200 for sure... the rest of the money i would spend on a boost gauge and a decent intercooler setup and thats about it.

**MartinGouda** · 12-17-2004, 07:42 PM

speaking as a guy that runs a 5SFE with alot of time and money spent on them i can say ratkos plan is your ONLY OPTION that will do it for less than 1000 with out a bottle but i woudl say after the fittings and everything else you should budget 1500

also unles your bearings are mint i woudl suggest building up the lower half while you are at it.....they will spin

**Pineapple** · 12-17-2004, 07:45 PM

He got a 4A-FE.

**blackjagger** · 01-23-2005, 06:03 PM

Yeah he doesn't have a 5sfe thats only gt and gt-s in the 5th gens. For the 4afe u got your work cut out for u. There are a couple options though. First u can try and find an old mr2 4agze. Its a supercharged engine producting somewhere in the range of 160 hp. u can do a head swap, there are a couple of sites that can give u a walk thur talk thur. The other and better option for the future is the silver or black top 4age 20v. These are a little more expensive but well worth the effort. Ever heard of the AE101 well thats the silver top and the black top is the AE111. AE101 is about 160 hp, while AE111 is abou 165 hp. These engines will give u a good base and are well worth the money. U can get a AE101 for around $2000 from an importer. But if u look hard enough and do some junk yard work u can probably get one for 1500 or even less.

Cheers

12-17-2004, 06:49 PM	#1 (permalink)
NappyCelica Posts: 2 Join Date: Dec 2004 Last On: 12-17-2004 06:45 PM	Help me on my 93 ST Hey guys, I came to the fourms after looking for hours for good performance parts for my 1993 Celica ST. I do NOT want Accessories,Body Kits, or Interior Things. Please post any sites that you recommend for buying engine performance parts. My car stock is 103 HP, I just installed my Muffler (Magna Flow) adding about 10% gain HP so, now im at 110. Im looking to spend up to 500$, and I want to get my car to at least 150 HP+ Thanks guys

12-17-2004, 07:42 PM	#5 (permalink)
MartinGouda USE THE SEARCH FEATURE!!! Location: Streetsville Posts: 12,023 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 06-02-2008 01:41 PM Vehicle: DelsolTurboN2O 2nd Vehicle: Talon TSI AWD	speaking as a guy that runs a 5SFE with alot of time and money spent on them i can say ratkos plan is your ONLY OPTION that will do it for less than 1000 with out a bottle but i woudl say after the fittings and everything else you should budget 1500 also unles your bearings are mint i woudl suggest building up the lower half while you are at it.....they will spin __________________ www.martingouda.com.... the rumors are all true...

12-17-2004, 07:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
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01-23-2005, 06:03 PM	#7 (permalink)
blackjagger Location: Oshawa Posts: 37 Join Date: Jan 2005 Last On: 11-20-2006 03:36 PM	Yeah he doesn't have a 5sfe thats only gt and gt-s in the 5th gens. For the 4afe u got your work cut out for u. There are a couple options though. First u can try and find an old mr2 4agze. Its a supercharged engine producting somewhere in the range of 160 hp. u can do a head swap, there are a couple of sites that can give u a walk thur talk thur. The other and better option for the future is the silver or black top 4age 20v. These are a little more expensive but well worth the effort. Ever heard of the AE101 well thats the silver top and the black top is the AE111. AE101 is about 160 hp, while AE111 is abou 165 hp. These engines will give u a good base and are well worth the money. U can get a AE101 for around $2000 from an importer. But if u look hard enough and do some junk yard work u can probably get one for 1500 or even less. Cheers __________________ 1990 gt

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12-17-2004, 07:08 PM	#2 (permalink)
Ratko it was all a dream Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 9,863,211 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 07-18-2008 09:59 AM Vehicle: 91 MR2 Turbo 2nd Vehicle: 96 Civic Hatch	Im sorry to break the news, but there is no way you will make 150 HP on a 5SFE engine with $500. I know people who have done full cold air intake, headers, and full exhaust, and have just barely broke the 100 HP mark on the dyno. I also seriously doubt you made a 10% increase in power with just a magnaflow muffler, but im sure it helped a bit over the stock unit. If you think you're lucky, try a nitrous system.

12-17-2004, 07:14 PM	#3 (permalink)
NappyCelica Posts: 2 Join Date: Dec 2004 Last On: 12-17-2004 06:45 PM	Ok, well how much money in your opnion will it take to hit the 150 HP range, I'd say my max is 1000$ I was just seeing what I could do for 500$ but if you could reply back That would be appericated Thanks guys

12-17-2004, 07:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Ratko it was all a dream Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 9,863,211 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 07-18-2008 09:59 AM Vehicle: 91 MR2 Turbo 2nd Vehicle: 96 Civic Hatch	if i was in your shoes with $1000 to spend to reach 150 HP, i would do a light-duty 5SFTE turbo setup running @ 5psi. I'd be on a budget, meaning i'd probably source the parts for it from junkyards (www.car-part.com) and individuals on MR2 forums (www.mr2oc.com). This would include the 3SGTE manifold and turbo. I would get the stock oil pan fitted for the turbo oil return line, and use a 3SGTE MAP sensor, and injectors for fuel, controlled by a cheap SAFC unit which you could get for under $200 for sure... the rest of the money i would spend on a boost gauge and a decent intercooler setup and thats about it.