97ST converted to GT-4?

**airmax** · 11-23-2005, 07:44 AM

I am such a n00b. But can this be possible? Has this been done? I really want to upgrade my ST to GT-Four. Would it be a waste of my time trying to upgrade? Would it cost more $ to try and convert to gt-4 instead of just buying one? Thx for your help in advance!

**3sgte@daspeedof** · 11-23-2005, 11:12 AM

then u should have bought a gt, and won the lottery. Any yes if you bought a gt-4 it would cost you less then attempting it.

**Pineapple** · 11-23-2005, 11:31 AM

Why make a car you can buy? Get a GT-4 then start working on it.

**Lil_lissa** · 11-23-2005, 04:26 PM

isnt it near impossible to get a gt4 over here?
or is it just really really expensive?

**Pineapple** · 11-23-2005, 04:33 PM

Import from Japan/Europe.
If you can't even find the car, how do you find the parts to do the swap?

**TRDcelicaGT-FOUR** · 11-24-2005, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pineapple

Import from Japan/Europe.
If you can't even find the car, how do you find the parts to do the swap?

Motors are easy to source. Cars in Japan can only be driven a certain amount of Km, then they need to be replaced or rebuilt, for emission reasons. Thats why they send the motors to NA. Tiger Japan motors gets them sometimes. I was going to buy a CS 3S-GTE before I sold the car, but the amount of work and time needed was way beyond my means. You need a lot of time to do these projects, and need a stable daily driver, for means of steady transportation.

**3sgte@daspeedof** · 11-24-2005, 02:28 PM

public transit is steady you know what time it is going to be there, but you can't get up and go like you need to, on top of the fact it takes extra time with all the stops but still more reliable.

**3sgte@daspeedof** · 11-24-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lil_lissa

isnt it near impossible to get a gt4 over here?
or is it just really really expensive?

You can pay to import the whole car, get a vin from another car and swap them out, you would have to put the motor, suspension and frontend back to gether but it can be done.

Or you can spend about 20 to 30 grand and convert a car to awd & turbo, but why not just spend 7 to 14 on one that came that way to begin with

**Pineapple** · 11-24-2005, 03:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TRDcelicaGT-FOUR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pineapple

Import from Japan/Europe.
If you can't even find the car, how do you find the parts to do the swap?

Motors are easy to source. Cars in Japan can only be driven a certain amount of Km, then they need to be replaced or rebuilt, for emission reasons. Thats why they send the motors to NA. Tiger Japan motors gets them sometimes. I was going to buy a CS 3S-GTE before I sold the car, but the amount of work and time needed was way beyond my means. You need a lot of time to do these projects, and need a stable daily driver, for means of steady transportation.

He wants a GT-4 not a GT-2. See the different? Its not just the engine.

**Valo666** · 11-24-2005, 10:02 PM

also...6th gen GT-4s cant be brought over untill 2009. Canadian law states that a car cannot be brought from another country over seas unless it meets 1 or 2 criterias. One, it passes all canadian safety and emession standards from factory, and/or the car is over 15 years of age, to the month(ie right now u can only bring over say..a skyline GTR from 90, if its made before november). The only way you can really bring a car over if its less than 15 years of age is if you get the motor, interior, and suspention shipped over taken off the car and then ship the shell seperately. Then its considered a kit car because it has to be fully put together again. Costs a hell of alot of $ but its how u could get a 6th gen GT-4 here right now.

11-26-2005, 06:23 PM

Plus, the rear end is different on the 6th gen ST/GT/GT-S. The AWD system from the GT4 will not fit into your car unless you do some serious modifications to the frame, pretty much everything. It IS possible, anything is, but it won't be easy, or inexpensive.

JR · 11-26-2005, 11:24 PM

if you have enough money anything is possible...realistic, maybe not, but still possible.

cool idea...I guess
Is it worth the attempt...hell no!

example of stupid uses for money...
1. Putting a different brand of motor in a car (eg. domestic v-8 in jap car.)
I thought about this when I first bought my celi...I was gonna but a chev, smallblock 350 in it, (seen it somewhere)...then I realized, there are better ways to do upgrades (eg 22rte, supra ct26 turbo, 25 psi :D )

2. Trying to convert FWD to AWD when you're options are : import all parts from japan, chop away at current car, worry about all that could go wrong...or just import the car you want, (whether as a kit car or not) for a fraction the hassle...which would you choose??

my 5 cents, take it as it is

**JDLangevin** · 11-28-2005, 03:58 AM

You can't convert it to a GT4, but you can at least have the engine :)

Check out the first link here:

http://www.phoenixtuning.com/swaps.html

-Doc

**Jake25** · 01-05-2006, 07:13 PM

Who would buy a 1995 Celica GT-4 with 102k miles?

**Arabian_Knight** · 01-06-2006, 04:32 PM

**MartinGouda** · 01-06-2006, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Arabian_Knight

me

**Locker** · 01-06-2006, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arabian_Knight

me

11-23-2005, 07:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
airmax Posts: 1 Join Date: Nov 2005 Last On: 11-23-2005 08:02 AM	97ST converted to GT-4? I am such a n00b. But can this be possible? Has this been done? I really want to upgrade my ST to GT-Four. Would it be a waste of my time trying to upgrade? Would it cost more $ to try and convert to gt-4 instead of just buying one? Thx for your help in advance!

11-23-2005, 11:12 AM	#2 (permalink)
3sgte@daspeedof Hi-Tech Location: Mississauga Posts: 3,702 Join Date: May 2004 Last On: 09-03-2008 07:50 PM Vehicle: 3sgte-5th gen 2nd Vehicle: 92 5th gen celi	then u should have bought a gt, and won the lottery. Any yes if you bought a gt-4 it would cost you less then attempting it. __________________ Boost is a necessity just like air, once you take your first breath you can't live with out it! Salon Spa Software for all your management software needs. http://salonspaware.com - spa salon software

11-23-2005, 11:31 AM	#3 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,250 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Today 05:01 AM	Why make a car you can buy? Get a GT-4 then start working on it. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

11-23-2005, 04:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Lil_lissa biker bitch Location: Cambridge Posts: 4,483 Join Date: Dec 2003 Last On: 09-16-2008 01:22 PM Vehicle: 04 Suzuki GS500 2nd Vehicle: 95 Intrepid	isnt it near impossible to get a gt4 over here? or is it just really really expensive? __________________ lissa \| 1997 Ford F150 Lariat 4x4

11-23-2005, 04:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,250 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Today 05:01 AM	Import from Japan/Europe. If you can't even find the car, how do you find the parts to do the swap? __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

11-24-2005, 02:28 PM	#7 (permalink)
3sgte@daspeedof Hi-Tech Location: Mississauga Posts: 3,702 Join Date: May 2004 Last On: 09-03-2008 07:50 PM Vehicle: 3sgte-5th gen 2nd Vehicle: 92 5th gen celi	public transit is steady you know what time it is going to be there, but you can't get up and go like you need to, on top of the fact it takes extra time with all the stops but still more reliable. __________________ Boost is a necessity just like air, once you take your first breath you can't live with out it! Salon Spa Software for all your management software needs. http://salonspaware.com - spa salon software

11-24-2005, 10:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
Valo666 Posts: 62 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 03-31-2008 10:52 AM	also...6th gen GT-4s cant be brought over untill 2009. Canadian law states that a car cannot be brought from another country over seas unless it meets 1 or 2 criterias. One, it passes all canadian safety and emession standards from factory, and/or the car is over 15 years of age, to the month(ie right now u can only bring over say..a skyline GTR from 90, if its made before november). The only way you can really bring a car over if its less than 15 years of age is if you get the motor, interior, and suspention shipped over taken off the car and then ship the shell seperately. Then its considered a kit car because it has to be fully put together again. Costs a hell of alot of $ but its how u could get a 6th gen GT-4 here right now. __________________ 94 Celica GTS 83 Celica GTS the new baby

11-26-2005, 06:23 PM	#11 (permalink)
ciento44 Posts: n/a	Plus, the rear end is different on the 6th gen ST/GT/GT-S. The AWD system from the GT4 will not fit into your car unless you do some serious modifications to the frame, pretty much everything. It IS possible, anything is, but it won't be easy, or inexpensive.

11-26-2005, 11:24 PM	#12 (permalink)
JR Resident 1st Gen Location: Owen Sound, ON Posts: 2,437 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: Today 01:36 AM Vehicle: 90 Civic DX 2nd Vehicle: 77 Celica	if you have enough money anything is possible...realistic, maybe not, but still possible. cool idea...I guess Is it worth the attempt...hell no! example of stupid uses for money... 1. Putting a different brand of motor in a car (eg. domestic v-8 in jap car.) I thought about this when I first bought my celi...I was gonna but a chev, smallblock 350 in it, (seen it somewhere)...then I realized, there are better ways to do upgrades (eg 22rte, supra ct26 turbo, 25 psi :D ) 2. Trying to convert FWD to AWD when you're options are : import all parts from japan, chop away at current car, worry about all that could go wrong...or just import the car you want, (whether as a kit car or not) for a fraction the hassle...which would you choose?? my 5 cents, take it as it is __________________ J.R.

11-28-2005, 03:58 AM	#13 (permalink)
JDLangevin Location: Vermont Posts: 21 Join Date: Oct 2004 Last On: 01-09-2006 02:40 AM	You can't convert it to a GT4, but you can at least have the engine :) Check out the first link here: http://www.phoenixtuning.com/swaps.html -Doc __________________ I\'m starting my own tuning shop in northern Vermont, and for a limited time I\'m doing engine swaps and turbo setups for a big discount. If you\'re interested email me at drtweak@phoenixtuning.com

01-05-2006, 07:13 PM	#14 (permalink)
Jake25 Location: NorCal* Posts: 1 Join Date: Jan 2006 Last On: 01-06-2006 07:03 PM	Who would buy a 1995 Celica GT-4 with 102k miles?

01-06-2006, 04:32 PM	#15 (permalink)
Arabian_Knight AK47 Location: Richmond Hill Posts: 3,800 Join Date: May 2005 Last On: 02-09-2008 01:14 AM Vehicle: G35 Coupe 6MT 2nd Vehicle: Swapped 5th gen	me __________________

01-06-2006, 05:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
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