7a-fe/5s-fe swap help??

**blackscarlet** · 09-19-2005, 12:53 PM

ok... i recently bought a 95 toyota celica with the 7a-fe engine in it. The engine needs to be replaced and i wanted to put the 5s-fe 2.2 engine in it. if anyone has done this or knows anything about it I'd appreciate the help. I need to find out what things, in my car now, would have to converted for the 2.2 to be able to bolt up. i know that i'll need to get a new tranny, axles, radiator,....so if you know of anything else....

**Pineapple** · 09-19-2005, 12:59 PM

plus ECU, wiring harness, cut and weld engine mounts.
For the trouble you have to go through, 130HP doesn't worth it.
Go get a 4A-GZE.

**blackscarlet** · 09-19-2005, 07:17 PM

Well... i don't want to get a fast engine because i'm not into cars for speed. i was going to just replace the engine but i figured i have $3,000 to spend. the car i drive now has a 3.3 in it and the engine to be replaced in the celica is a 1.8. So i wanted a little bit more power.
I'm not doing the swap to have a race car...i just don't have the money to do it all....ya know...i've looked around and i can get the 5s-fe 2.2 plus the transmission for about $1,100. And anything that is going to need to be replaced within the next few years i'm just going to do during the swap....plus since i'm a girl i'd like to have the interior hooked up jus' a little bit...but i'll still gladly take any advice..

**Pineapple** · 09-20-2005, 09:38 AM

The 4A-GZE is supercharged 1.6L around 170HP.
Need same parts as the 5S-FE swap: ECU tranny, wiring harness.
You can even just turbo the 1.8L.

**blackscarlet** · 09-20-2005, 10:05 AM

well my bf's dad has a peice of crap car that i learned how to drive stick on and i didn't like it and i dont know anyone that has a stick (that isn't a piece of crap) that i could drive to see if i would like it so i'm not going to make it a stick unless i know i'll like it. So... i wouldn't be getting a turbo...
...does the car have to be stick in order to have the turbo or supercharged??
and would it cost around the same amount cause i only have a certain amount of money??

**Pineapple** · 09-20-2005, 11:13 AM

Turbo and supercharger works great with automatic, don't need stick. All you need to turbo the car is a turbo and manifold. Some exhaust work and you can do 7 psi. To go higher you'll need intercooler, boost controller and other stuff. You can turbo it for $1100 or less.

**blackscarlet** · 09-20-2005, 07:05 PM

Really....$1,100 for the engine with a turbo...not including the tranny?? or including it?? Well either way that's not bad.. *now would I buy the engine, turbo, and tranny separate or together ?? I've had problems finding 7a-fe engines that weren't in major accidents or that have loww enough milles on it. And I can do this with a 7a-fe?? *
* * I know the engine in my celica now (7a-fe) has a rod knock...I'm not sure if anything else is bad...I mean I'll replace most the old tubing, the oil pump, most of the gaskets and that kinda crap but if I were to put in a 7a-fe turbo will the parts already in my car fit since it's the same motor, and if not what things would I have to change?? * Also, I wasn't ever really into cars before now, so I don't have much of a clue of the price range for things... how much would you think (besides the engine, turbo, and tranny) all the other parts would total around...give or take a few hundred.. * *I feel bad asking you all these questions...I really appreciate all the help!! *My bf and his dad are into cars just not celicas...so they know most of the basics just not the exact details that I need to know before I decide what to do.. *especially with the liminted money I have.

09-19-2005, 12:53 PM	#1 (permalink)
blackscarlet Posts: 6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 11-29-2005 06:20 PM	7a-fe/5s-fe swap help?? ok... i recently bought a 95 toyota celica with the 7a-fe engine in it. The engine needs to be replaced and i wanted to put the 5s-fe 2.2 engine in it. if anyone has done this or knows anything about it I'd appreciate the help. I need to find out what things, in my car now, would have to converted for the 2.2 to be able to bolt up. i know that i'll need to get a new tranny, axles, radiator,....so if you know of anything else....

09-19-2005, 12:59 PM	#2 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,250 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: 10-10-2008 06:21 PM	plus ECU, wiring harness, cut and weld engine mounts. For the trouble you have to go through, 130HP doesn't worth it. Go get a 4A-GZE. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

09-20-2005, 09:38 AM	#4 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,250 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: 10-10-2008 06:21 PM	The 4A-GZE is supercharged 1.6L around 170HP. Need same parts as the 5S-FE swap: ECU tranny, wiring harness. You can even just turbo the 1.8L. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

09-20-2005, 11:13 AM	#6 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,250 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: 10-10-2008 06:21 PM	Turbo and supercharger works great with automatic, don't need stick. All you need to turbo the car is a turbo and manifold. Some exhaust work and you can do 7 psi. To go higher you'll need intercooler, boost controller and other stuff. You can turbo it for $1100 or less. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

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09-19-2005, 07:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
blackscarlet Posts: 6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 11-29-2005 06:20 PM	Well... i don't want to get a fast engine because i'm not into cars for speed. i was going to just replace the engine but i figured i have $3,000 to spend. the car i drive now has a 3.3 in it and the engine to be replaced in the celica is a 1.8. So i wanted a little bit more power. I'm not doing the swap to have a race car...i just don't have the money to do it all....ya know...i've looked around and i can get the 5s-fe 2.2 plus the transmission for about $1,100. And anything that is going to need to be replaced within the next few years i'm just going to do during the swap....plus since i'm a girl i'd like to have the interior hooked up jus' a little bit...but i'll still gladly take any advice..

09-20-2005, 10:05 AM	#5 (permalink)
blackscarlet Posts: 6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 11-29-2005 06:20 PM	well my bf's dad has a peice of crap car that i learned how to drive stick on and i didn't like it and i dont know anyone that has a stick (that isn't a piece of crap) that i could drive to see if i would like it so i'm not going to make it a stick unless i know i'll like it. So... i wouldn't be getting a turbo... ...does the car have to be stick in order to have the turbo or supercharged?? and would it cost around the same amount cause i only have a certain amount of money??

09-20-2005, 07:05 PM	#7 (permalink)
blackscarlet Posts: 6 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 11-29-2005 06:20 PM	Really....$1,100 for the engine with a turbo...not including the tranny?? or including it?? Well either way that's not bad.. now would I buy the engine, turbo, and tranny separate or together ?? I've had problems finding 7a-fe engines that weren't in major accidents or that have loww enough milles on it. And I can do this with a 7a-fe?? * * I know the engine in my celica now (7a-fe) has a rod knock...I'm not sure if anything else is bad...I mean I'll replace most the old tubing, the oil pump, most of the gaskets and that kinda crap but if I were to put in a 7a-fe turbo will the parts already in my car fit since it's the same motor, and if not what things would I have to change?? * Also, I wasn't ever really into cars before now, so I don't have much of a clue of the price range for things... how much would you think (besides the engine, turbo, and tranny) all the other parts would total around...give or take a few hundred.. * I feel bad asking you all these questions...I really appreciate all the help!! My bf and his dad are into cars just not celicas...so they know most of the basics just not the exact details that I need to know before I decide what to do.. *especially with the liminted money I have.