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Taz
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All Trac vs JDM swap?
Hokay here's my dilema, I've been saving to swap a jdm 3sgte into my automatic gts. On craigslist I've seen two all tracs for sale between 2k -4k around Richmond and Fredericksburg, but they have engine problems that are probly serious to sell them that cheap. I'm leaning more towards my gts swap, but aren't 92 all tracs worth like 10k in good condition?
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Workin on the Alltrac
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Re: All Trac vs JDM swap?
to each their own. in a GTS the wrong wheels are getting the power
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Re: All Trac vs JDM swap?
Its entirely upto you. Is the gts your daily driver? I personaly would go with the alltrac. A. You already have the 3sgte. B. Its awd. If its not your daily driver. I would sell the gts get the alltrac. Which one to get is all depending on the problem. if its minor get it. Its always nice to have a project car also. My celica was my daily driver but I got another car and now its my project..
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Taz
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Re: All Trac vs JDM swap?
Right now it's my daily, but I'll be getting my moms prius in like 2 years so I just want whatever would be faster and less expensive. True it would be fwd but it would lose less power through 2 wheels than 4, I'd have a JDM with like 50k miles rather than a broken USDM with 140k, and the gts weighs less. I also have the seibon AT hood, love it! So it's a pretty tough choice ya know, I could use the awd sometimes =/
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Re: All Trac vs JDM swap?
You won't necessarily lose hp but you would lose hp to the wheels and there's benefits of both. With awd cars you will launch better and won't break lose as easily. Everything is entirely up to you. What you want to do to the car. And what do you want the car for. Like I have a 91 gt with the 5sfe in it. Most people would do a 3sgte swap. Where im converting it to a 5sgte. And its not an easy task. I want my car to be unique and have a lot of power. So that's why im going the route that I am.
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Taz
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Re: All Trac vs JDM swap?
I was also debating between a swap or turbo. Cuz my auto trans would mean no lag and I like my ECT power button. But yeah I heard it wasn't easy, but my dads been a toyota mechanic for almost 30 years. Is building a 5sfte more expensive, get better mpg, about same hp as the 3sgte? It is unique and I want a fast automatic lol.
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Re: All Trac vs JDM swap?
if your dads a mechanic then get an alltrac with a good body, the engine can be fixed,there are plenty of aftermarket parts but a rusty body can be a nightmare to restore! getting a JDM engine with 100K doesn't mean its in good condition, its a 20 year old engine thats been sitting on some rack in a warehouse somewhere in Asia for at least 10 years so chances are seals and gaskets need to be replaced anyway. In my opinion the alltrac is more of a race car with a race car solid frame, its built to take a beating thus the 3 X WRC wins. You also have an automatic so you'll have to get an automatic camry tranny or something to mate up with the 3sgte.. im not sure if the auto tranny of the 5sfe and handle the 3s power..
I was in your shoes last August....... guess what i'm driving now?
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Re: All Trac vs JDM swap?
The 5sfte is a possibility. There is a guy named pressure2 on toyotanation that has done it and has been running for 3+ years now. If your worried about mpg. Then I wouldn't do a thing to your car.. And if your dads a toyota mechanic I don't really see why your asking us.
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Re: All Trac vs JDM swap?
That's not being rude. its just stating a fact. If your worried about mpg then performance won't help that any. More power will need more gas reducing the mpg.. And even if he's your dad he should beable to give you advice. Prop better than whatever we may beable to tell you. And I apologise if its coming off as rude. But this topic of swaps comes up every week. The only diffrence with you is a swap vs a newer car. Anything you do is dependant on you. And what you want. I just recomend doing research. Weighing out the varibles and go from there. Like personaly I've been on this forum for a short ammount of time but. I have been researching the 3sgte and 5sfe for approx 8 years now. And just recently joined. To get answers that I do not know and to pass on information that may help others.
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