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Cold Air Intake
CiRiS91GT
08-02-2005
Alright guys, 91 Celica GT - I have been given pass by a sponcoring company to have any cold air intake i want... what do you...
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TopSecretFC on 09-21-2005, 03:14 AM
For all those considering CAI mod ...be warned of high water. 2 of my friends have lost their motors because of them. please please use caution.
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CiRiS91GT on 09-23-2005, 01:41 AM
what sort of precausions can you take other then rainy weather, lol

anyone do anything neat that worked well in the past??
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TopSecretFC on 09-23-2005, 12:18 PM
just don't do it at all ...the consequences out-weigh the benefits

if you want colder air just duct some air from the front of the bumper opening to the filter
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ScottGT-S on 09-23-2005, 02:26 PM
^^ word


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MartinGouda on 09-23-2005, 04:14 PM
you didn;t duct shiti man!

that's stock and if you could see how convelouted that system is you would know that it's better to take the plastic out all together

as for ideal air setup in a celica... cold air is cold air.. make an air box in the same area as the the battery and relocate that to the trunk then remove the plastic ducting and use some hvac hose to bring up air to that opening and run that to the fog light area but do not put it in a "ram air posisition" just let it suck it in from there... ram air isn't helpful until mach one and trust me your car isn't that fast....

once oyu have this setup you should be starting to sound better and shouldn't have any fear of waterlock but as far as power goes this will only help your top end and withthe amount spent you really should have invested in an exhaust setup instead.

btw.. of all the mods i have now i would say the only one that was truly worth salt was the header..it makes the biggest diffrence and also make the rest of the mod's make sence...
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TRDcelicaGT-FOUR on 09-23-2005, 04:23 PM
Battery in trunk, removes the heat going into the intake, as well as frees up air restriction.
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MartinGouda on 09-23-2005, 04:24 PM
no...the battery in the celica isn't really a heat issue.. it's a weight issue...

as for restriction..meh.. it's not really in the way.. moving it jsut creates alot more room for ambient air around the filter and that discourages heat sink and encourages flow
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ScottGT-S on 09-23-2005, 07:07 PM
buddy did I say its duct? As for your PACESETTER header, I have my doubts :D
Ive done spending money on the 5SFE
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Locker on 09-23-2005, 07:13 PM
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buddy did I say its duct? As for your PACESETTER header, I have my doubts :D
Ive done spending money on the 5SFE

You may have your doubts but we've sceen the difference. first on boosted GT's car and now on Martin's. The Header just made the intake and exaust mods come together as a full unit
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ScottGT-S on 09-23-2005, 11:06 PM
as with many things I suppose you get what you pay for, ya know.
I have a muffler ready to go, but ive really been thinking about going 3sgte rather than throwing money in the 5sfe pit (189,xxx kms on engine)
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MartinGouda on 09-24-2005, 12:15 AM
you know what i think...

i think you suck at cars... as for the pit that is the 5sfe i can buy them for about 200-300 each and bosst them for about 500 and swap them in a day or two....

what you gonna say to that amature?
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TopSecretFC on 09-24-2005, 12:53 AM
if you were talking to me ...i would say grow up. *this is a technical forum and your immature comments are what ruin a perfectly informative discussion.

on a side note ...i would never touch a car that took $500 to turbocharge.
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CiRiS91GT on 09-26-2005, 10:32 AM
i still want that header martin, i hope you have it still.. lemme know...

did you notice gains with that cold air setup??
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Locker on 09-26-2005, 11:08 AM
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if you were talking to me ...i would say grow up. *this is a technical forum and your immature comments are what ruin a perfectly informative discussion.

on a side note ...i would never touch a car that took $500 to turbocharge.

a good quality $500 turbo set up is completely possible as long as you know the right people!
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TopSecretFC on 09-26-2005, 12:25 PM
Possibly, but that parts wont be new. Here is why...

Turbo ...ATLEAST $500
Manifold ...ATLEAST $150
Wastegate ...ATLEAST $100
Oil/Coolant lines ...ATLEAST $50

Now... this is for proper brand new good quality brand name parts:

Turbo ....$750
Manifold ...$300
Wastegate ...$200
Oil/Coolant lines ...$100

I didn't even throw in custom exhaust downpipe and intake pipe. Of course then you have to have the proper fuel supply and tuning strategy.

Turbocharging a car is not a light modification. If you want the components to last and the engine to last you have to pay to play as always.

***If you can honestly find these parts cheaper, let me know ...and I will be sure to to check them out for myself.
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Locker on 09-26-2005, 12:33 PM
If you were buying the parts off ebay you'd be right $500 for a turbo would be a decent price.

Clearly you don't know the right people!

I have everything in my garage to do a 5sfte minus the turbo MAP and AFM. I know an engine importer where I can get used Turbo's for like $200 or find them online or between friends.

No these parts will not be new but even at the prices you've described you'd be hard pressed to get them all new.

Its not what you know... its who you know!
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CiRiS91GT on 09-26-2005, 01:09 PM
i have asked this question like 3 times, i dont ant to tinker with the air flow simply because the way toyot has it set up seems pretty efficient and i dont give a shit about sound... will i notice much of a gain by doing up a cold air intake system?
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MartinGouda on 09-26-2005, 01:13 PM
this is a technical forum?

no man.. this is a place where enthusiasts come and shoot the shit and learn about things...it's a home to humor, knowledge and friends that meet daily online to strengthen their minds and in some cases weeken them (like when reading your posts) realistcaly you need to think about your statments

my turbo setup cost me all of 200 bucks and is all in mint condition

it includes fuel injectors, turbo,manifold,downpipe (2.5 inch) o2 sensors, gaskets, piping, lines and much more... wanna know why? cause people like me!

i have also got reason to believe that an fc tuner has alot to learn if he dosn't think he can throw boost at an engine for 500 bucks.. i have added a t to a 13b for less than that and it's still running now.

anywyas it wasn't aimed at you it was at scott his intake was basicaly a filter replacemnt and he gave a "WORD" to your comment which was correct...however he hadn't ducted his... his was stock piping whit the box pulled and a KnN added...

have a look at the pics... filter + hose clamp does not equal CAI

had he created a true pipe for it and pulled the plastic triangular tubing and reloacted the battery like i had he would still only have a very good short ram...


all in all i have done more junk to more 5th on this site than you both have and i knwo what works from experience not from guessing and theroy... listen up to what i said and you will see it works... locker has seen my setup and though it's good it's not perfect and even i will tell you that you can do better if you take the time... but i waste my time here to much explaing shit to people that havn't got a clue what they are bitching about.

childish? maybe
immature? for sure
right? absolutly
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MartinGouda on 09-26-2005, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by CiRiS91GT
i have asked this question like 3 times, i dont ant to tinker with the air flow simply because the way toyot has it set up seems pretty efficient and i dont give a shit about sound... will i notice much of a gain by doing up a cold air intake system?

gains are very noticable after 3000 rpm if proper outlets are in place. with out a proper exhaust and timing there is only sound and perhaps 1-2 hp to be found max
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CiRiS91GT on 09-26-2005, 01:17 PM
i want that header!!
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