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Old 04-22-2006, 08:36 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Convert to all-track

I was wondering how hard it would be to convert a 4th gen celi gt/gt-s to an all-track. I'm mostly wondering if the unibody construction is different.
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u can swap engine but the awd is apparently not gonna happen. At that age I suggest u just buy an alltrac
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OK so what is the reason that the awd system can't be implemented? Is the under-carriage different(does it need a large recessed area for the drive shaft?)?.
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that is what I hear...I have not done this myself nor have I attempted but I believe the labour will cost you more on converting to awd than just buying the awd turbo all trac
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Yeah I figured it would be more hassle than I would like. I am surprised that no one has mentioned that I wrote all-track instead of alltrac. Only reason I brought this up is that it is hard to find a an alltrac in decent shape for a decent price.... well at least around where I live.
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well if u find one all fucked..u can just fix the body up and swapin a new engine if your into that sort of thing
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I've been looking for a wrecked one for the past three months, but no luck.
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ahmed.. you are too nice...i would have said somthing like...

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Well I have just found out that it isn't that hard to convert to an alltrac, all you have to do is notch and recess the floor pan, cut a small portion of the firewall out to fit the transfer case, and modify he hatch floor to mount the rear differential. So I might attempt this conversion after all, Because it has been done before.
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yeah, 4th gens wouldn't be as bad as 5th or newer to convert... I'm talking outta my ass again, I don't really know.
Ask me if you should convert a 1st gen to AWD. Then I will tell you no. It is already RWD and the AWD isn't worth the extra weight.
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yeah, 4th gens wouldn't be as bad as 5th or newer to convert... I'm talking outta my ass again, I don't really know.
Ask me if you should convert a 1st gen to AWD. Then I will tell you no. It is already RWD and the AWD isn't worth the extra weight.


You obviously dont have an alltrac.
The amount of money your gonna spend doing this. you can get an alltrac.
email me at mhz_l@hotmail.com and we can chat.
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I'm confuzed by your reply klue...either that or you quoted the wrong person.
did you read that I wrote "I'm talking outta my ass again, I don't really know"...

but you are correct, I don't have an alltrac...and it is pretty obvious (see sig)...so yes, I obviously don't have an alltrac :D
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but you are correct, I don't have an alltrac...and it is pretty obvious (see sig)...so yes, I obviously don't have an alltrac :D

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Well I have just found out that it isn't that hard to convert to an alltrac, all you have to do is notch and recess the floor pan, cut a small portion of the firewall out to fit the transfer case, and modify he hatch floor to mount the rear differential. So I might attempt this conversion after all, Because it has been done before.


Bwhahahahah.... idiot

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^ lol, I like the evil laugh

dam, martin and his re-posts tho I remember posting that...finally came to some good use

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Well I'm guessing you guys dont think it can be done, but I have a web link for a guy who converted a 5th gen to awd.

http://www.oregonizedimports.com/pages/5/index.htm
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anything can be done man... practicality and cost effectivly? no.
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