3sgte

**barrybliss333** · 09-12-2005, 04:09 AM

Alright guys thanks for the help on the last topic. I have decided to go with the 3sgte but i'm not going with the st165 i want eigther the st205 or the mk3 from the 94-98 mr2. I want the st205 but the problem is what transmission should i go with... I mean it comes with a 5spd. awd tranny but i don't have the drive shaft or rear diff. to use the awd... if anyone knows where to get them please let me know... or i'm going to sacrifice 10hp.

**Pineapple** · 09-12-2005, 11:51 AM

Use your stock tranny or one from the MR2.

**TRDcelicaGT-FOUR** · 09-12-2005, 02:03 PM

stock tranny wont hold for very long. I know the ST185 motor should fit with MR2 tranny, the ST205 should be the same.

**klue** · 09-12-2005, 11:28 PM

all the 3sgte trannies are interchangeable, the st165 tranny has the best ratios imo. Definately use the alltrac tranny, just dump the trasfer case if ur going 2wd. If your going to put a lot of power, while the tranny is out upgrade the clutch and cryo the syncos, from my experience the stock clutch is good for stock levels.

**barrybliss333** · 09-13-2005, 05:27 AM

alright thanks for the help guys but i couldn't use the stock tranny anyways... i got an auto. wich sucks big monkey nuts but now i think i'm gonna just get the one from the mr2 that sounds like my best bet.

**klue** · 09-13-2005, 09:09 PM

an AUTO?!?!?! never heard of any alltracs with an automatic transmission, or any 3sgte's for that matter.

**Galcobar** · 09-14-2005, 04:14 AM

Which would be explained by him wanting to swap his transmission out along with his stock engine when he puts in the 3SGTE.

Okay, so I don't know if you've got a 3SFE or 3SGE. Either way, it's an S-series engine, so the engine itself will not require custom mounts, even sourcing a 3SGTE from an overseas sixth-gen (the ST205 never having been sold in North America).

Your best option on the transmission is to use an E153, either from a late-model MR2 Turbo in which case your linkages are backwards because it's configured for RWD, or from a V6 Camry. The Camry's version of the E153 lies in that it is already configured for FWD. However, to mate the E153 transmission to the wheels will require sourcing the All-trac, IIRC, outer shafts. Using a GT4/All-trac transmission is inefficient, since it's not designed to be blocked off and half-used. You will also need the All-trac cross-member to support the E153 transmission.

Try car-part.com to find used transmissions in junkyards across the continent, including provincial searches.

**3sgte@daspeedof** · 09-14-2005, 05:12 PM

on top of the alltrac tranny not ment to be used in a fwd configuration, you will only get 50% of the power using this tranny, just swap it for a v6 tranny out of a solara or a camry, they will both hold fine. The best would be a mr2 tranny with lsd, you will need the inner half shafts & alltrac outers to get that to work.

**90CelicaGT-S** · 09-14-2005, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 3sgte@daspeedof

on top of the alltrac tranny not ment to be used in a fwd configuration, you will only get 50% of the power using this tranny, just swap it for a v6 tranny out of a solara or a camry, they will both hold fine. *The best would be a mr2 tranny with lsd, you will need the inner half shafts & alltrac outers to get that to work.

THANK YOU. I knew I had to use at least one alltrac axle and I haven't been able to find the info on exactly what I need to do anywhere. Joining this forum is really paying off for me. Thanks

**3sgte@daspeedof** · 09-15-2005, 02:30 AM

If you can't pass on the knowledge then whats the use in having it

09-12-2005, 04:09 AM	#1 (permalink)
barrybliss333 Location: Bellingham Washington Posts: 12 Join Date: Aug 2005 Last On: 05-26-2006 11:09 AM	3sgte Alright guys thanks for the help on the last topic. I have decided to go with the 3sgte but i'm not going with the st165 i want eigther the st205 or the mk3 from the 94-98 mr2. I want the st205 but the problem is what transmission should i go with... I mean it comes with a 5spd. awd tranny but i don't have the drive shaft or rear diff. to use the awd... if anyone knows where to get them please let me know... or i'm going to sacrifice 10hp.

09-12-2005, 11:51 AM	#2 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,280 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Today 01:04 PM	Use your stock tranny or one from the MR2. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

09-12-2005, 02:03 PM	#3 (permalink)
TRDcelicaGT-FOUR Lost in a world of Chaos Location: Mississauga Posts: 1,585 Join Date: Oct 2003 Last On: 02-16-2007 12:53 AM Vehicle: BMW 325i 2nd Vehicle: MB 300D	stock tranny wont hold for very long. I know the ST185 motor should fit with MR2 tranny, the ST205 should be the same. __________________ When a boy reaches puberty, he says goodbye to his boyhood and looks forward to his adultery.

09-14-2005, 04:14 AM	#7 (permalink)
Galcobar Location: Richmond, B.C. Posts: 22 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 09-18-2005 10:28 PM	Which would be explained by him wanting to swap his transmission out along with his stock engine when he puts in the 3SGTE. Okay, so I don't know if you've got a 3SFE or 3SGE. Either way, it's an S-series engine, so the engine itself will not require custom mounts, even sourcing a 3SGTE from an overseas sixth-gen (the ST205 never having been sold in North America). Your best option on the transmission is to use an E153, either from a late-model MR2 Turbo in which case your linkages are backwards because it's configured for RWD, or from a V6 Camry. The Camry's version of the E153 lies in that it is already configured for FWD. However, to mate the E153 transmission to the wheels will require sourcing the All-trac, IIRC, outer shafts. Using a GT4/All-trac transmission is inefficient, since it's not designed to be blocked off and half-used. You will also need the All-trac cross-member to support the E153 transmission. Try car-part.com to find used transmissions in junkyards across the continent, including provincial searches. __________________ \"Men call cars \'she\' because it lets them claim to understand at least one female.\"

09-14-2005, 05:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
3sgte@daspeedof Hi-Tech Location: Mississauga Posts: 3,715 Join Date: May 2004 Last On: 10-30-2008 02:52 PM Vehicle: 3sgte-5th gen 2nd Vehicle: 92 5th gen celi	on top of the alltrac tranny not ment to be used in a fwd configuration, you will only get 50% of the power using this tranny, just swap it for a v6 tranny out of a solara or a camry, they will both hold fine. The best would be a mr2 tranny with lsd, you will need the inner half shafts & alltrac outers to get that to work. __________________ Boost is a necessity just like air, once you take your first breath you can't live with out it! Salon Spa Software for all your management software needs. http://salonspaware.com - spa salon software

09-12-2005, 11:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
klue Posts: 332 Join Date: Aug 2005 Last On: Today 04:45 PM	all the 3sgte trannies are interchangeable, the st165 tranny has the best ratios imo. Definately use the alltrac tranny, just dump the trasfer case if ur going 2wd. If your going to put a lot of power, while the tranny is out upgrade the clutch and cryo the syncos, from my experience the stock clutch is good for stock levels.

09-13-2005, 05:27 AM	#5 (permalink)
barrybliss333 Location: Bellingham Washington Posts: 12 Join Date: Aug 2005 Last On: 05-26-2006 11:09 AM	alright thanks for the help guys but i couldn't use the stock tranny anyways... i got an auto. wich sucks big monkey nuts but now i think i'm gonna just get the one from the mr2 that sounds like my best bet.

09-13-2005, 09:09 PM	#6 (permalink)
klue Posts: 332 Join Date: Aug 2005 Last On: Today 04:45 PM	an AUTO?!?!?! never heard of any alltracs with an automatic transmission, or any 3sgte's for that matter.

09-15-2005, 02:30 AM	#10 (permalink)
3sgte@daspeedof Hi-Tech Location: Mississauga Posts: 3,715 Join Date: May 2004 Last On: 10-30-2008 02:52 PM Vehicle: 3sgte-5th gen 2nd Vehicle: 92 5th gen celi	If you can't pass on the knowledge then whats the use in having it __________________ Boost is a necessity just like air, once you take your first breath you can't live with out it! Salon Spa Software for all your management software needs. http://salonspaware.com - spa salon software

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