Look what I found in the engine I just Bought

**Placilla** · 12-09-2007, 08:24 PM

I purchased an engine for my 86 Celica GTS (3SGE), supposed to be one of those Japanese engines with 40 to 60K miles. I decided to replace the front seal's, timing belt and water pump since it would be easy. While taking the water pump out I could not get that Phillips screw out and had to drill it out. When I got the water pump out I found this. Is it normal? Should I be worried? Should I continue or return the engine? I really wanted to get the car running this weekend, but now I don't know. Im leaning towards trying to return the engine, but I cleaned the mess the best I could already. So I dont know what they will say. I also installed the seal's, but they weren't that expensive. If you frequent Celicatech you may have seen it this already, I posted there last night.

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**evo** · 12-09-2007, 08:53 PM

possibly a blown head gasket

**Locker** · 12-10-2007, 01:43 PM

take that thing back...

**Pineapple** · 12-10-2007, 01:59 PM

First, you need a new water pump. Second your coolant passages in the engine may look like that also. You may need to take the engine apart and give it a hot bath before using it.

**klue** · 12-12-2007, 09:39 AM

if the aluminum water pump looks like that, i would hate to see what the rest of the block looks like.

take that shit back

**superwhitegts** · 12-12-2007, 06:37 PM

looks like someone might've had a leak in the radiator and used that stop seal out of wal mart or something! that's ugly!

**kiasis** · 12-28-2007, 05:20 PM

I have gone through 2 "low mile" JDM engines. Here's a link to a very interesting article about a high performance shop that's seen lots of JDM engines http://www.roadandtrack.net.au/Docum...20failures.pdf

If you decide to still go the JDM route, I recommend you strip it down and inspect most/all of it. Otherwise, you're spending time/$$ and may be pulling it again w/in a few months. At least pull the head while it's easily accessible, spend $35 to have it bench tested, visually inspect the cylinder walls, piston heads and rings, and install a new HG. A couple extra hours now could save you much more time/$$ down the road.

**Rick89GTS** · 12-29-2007, 02:56 AM

^That's a very good read, thanks for posting it :)

12-09-2007, 08:24 PM	#1 (permalink)
Placilla Location: arizona Posts: 15 Join Date: Feb 2006 Last On: 01-09-2008 01:03 PM	Look what I found in the engine I just Bought I purchased an engine for my 86 Celica GTS (3SGE), supposed to be one of those Japanese engines with 40 to 60K miles. I decided to replace the front seal's, timing belt and water pump since it would be easy. While taking the water pump out I could not get that Phillips screw out and had to drill it out. When I got the water pump out I found this. Is it normal? Should I be worried? Should I continue or return the engine? I really wanted to get the car running this weekend, but now I don't know. Im leaning towards trying to return the engine, but I cleaned the mess the best I could already. So I dont know what they will say. I also installed the seal's, but they weren't that expensive. If you frequent Celicatech you may have seen it this already, I posted there last night. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG]

12-09-2007, 08:53 PM	#2 (permalink)
evo 1992/ST185 Location: GTA Posts: 106 Join Date: Nov 2005 Last On: 11-02-2008 10:23 AM	Re: Look what I found in the engine I just Bought possibly a blown head gasket __________________ 1992/ST185

12-10-2007, 01:59 PM	#4 (permalink)
Pineapple Location: Toronto Posts: 4,331 Join Date: Jan 2004 Last On: Yesterday 05:25 PM	Re: Look what I found in the engine I just Bought First, you need a new water pump. Second your coolant passages in the engine may look like that also. You may need to take the engine apart and give it a hot bath before using it. __________________ http://photos.yahoo.com/fredericklaw http://members.rankmyride.com/pineapplelaw

12-12-2007, 09:39 AM	#5 (permalink)
klue Posts: 354 Join Date: Aug 2005 Last On: Today 03:58 AM	Re: Look what I found in the engine I just Bought if the aluminum water pump looks like that, i would hate to see what the rest of the block looks like. take that shit back

12-12-2007, 06:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
superwhitegts Location: indiana Posts: 16 Join Date: Nov 2007 Last On: 12-17-2008 07:02 PM	Re: Look what I found in the engine I just Bought looks like someone might've had a leak in the radiator and used that stop seal out of wal mart or something! that's ugly!

12-28-2007, 05:20 PM	#7 (permalink)
kiasis Location: Sacramento, CA Posts: 57 Join Date: Aug 2007 Last On: 10-11-2008 02:12 PM Vehicle: 88GTS	Re: Look what I found in the engine I just Bought I have gone through 2 "low mile" JDM engines. Here's a link to a very interesting article about a high performance shop that's seen lots of JDM engines http://www.roadandtrack.net.au/Docum...20failures.pdf If you decide to still go the JDM route, I recommend you strip it down and inspect most/all of it. Otherwise, you're spending time/$$ and may be pulling it again w/in a few months. At least pull the head while it's easily accessible, spend $35 to have it bench tested, visually inspect the cylinder walls, piston heads and rings, and install a new HG. A couple extra hours now could save you much more time/$$ down the road.

12-29-2007, 02:56 AM	#8 (permalink)
Rick89GTS Posts: 81 Join Date: Sep 2005 Last On: 01-06-2009 11:18 PM	Re: Look what I found in the engine I just Bought ^That's a very good read, thanks for posting it :)

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